phillips speaker cable

Willow
Willow Posts: 11,040
edited August 2004 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
any one ever heard or tried it ??

there is a shop selling some here it's 12awg and it states 100% oxygen free...proudly made in the USA

thanks
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    edited August 2004
    I've never heard of it. It is the same Philips Corp. from Holland?
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  • hellotheworld
    hellotheworld Posts: 205
    edited August 2004
    I think so, those are speaker wires at Walmart
    Walmart also has other Philips cable, like digital coax...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    edited August 2004
    Wamart is the last place I would buy anything audio related....actually, I won't shop there at all. Those effers have ruined far to many other business's and the towns they invade.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by F1nut
    Wamart is the last place I would buy anything audio related....actually, I won't shop there at all. Those effers have ruined far to many other business's and the towns they invade.
    yep, not the place for audio stuff...

    I will tell you this though, I bought a Phillips 926 CD player from Wal-mart a few years ago when I had my S4s, and I sold them both, still kicking myself...That CD player was one of the best players I have ever heard...
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by Willow
    any one ever heard or tried it ??

    there is a shop selling some here it's 12awg and it states 100% oxygen free...proudly made in the USA

    thanks

    If you're looking for 12awg wire, and its cheap, buy it!

    Regards,
    PolkThug
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    I was thinking of replacing my HD brand speaker cable non-oxy free for all runs. So I'm trying to keep the $$ down but not being cheap either... I have to run 50ft to my rear right but for my rears I will use 16awg (it's all I can fit under the carpet along the base board (oxy-free from HD is what I will use to keep the cost down) for the fronts...then I will pass on the phillips...go the oxy free HD or might splurge for kimbers....not sure yet !! either 25$ hd for all runs in front or 85$ for kimber....not sure if it's worth the extra cash ??
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by Willow
    or 85$ for kimber....not sure if it's worth the extra cash ??

    Half the people will say no, the other half will say yes.

    I'm running 12awg (HomeDepot) to the fronts and 16awg (GE) to the rears(for the same reasons you stated).

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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by Willow
    I was thinking of replacing my HD brand speaker cable non-oxy free for all runs. So I'm trying to keep the $$ down but not being cheap either... I have to run 50ft to my rear right but for my rears I will use 16awg (it's all I can fit under the carpet along the base board (oxy-free from HD is what I will use to keep the cost down) for the fronts...then I will pass on the phillips...go the oxy free HD or might splurge for kimbers....not sure yet !! either 25$ hd for all runs in front or 85$ for kimber....not sure if it's worth the extra cash ??

    Do NOT switch your HD wire with some likewise cheap cable just for the sake of switching. IMO, that would be a waste of money. Save for the Kimbers and run them on your mains and center. I don't think you'll notice much of a difference going Kimber to your rears unless you do multi-channel music and even then I'm not sure you would. For the rears I go cheap because of the length and cost.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    thanks...waiting seems to be better.....now should I buy more kimber to replace the jumpers I have made ?? or should the jumpers stay HD 12awg cable??
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by Willow
    thanks...waiting seems to be better.....now should I buy more kimber to replace the jumpers I have made ?? or should the jumpers stay HD 12awg cable??
    That's a good idea. Extra for jumpers will cost you an extra $5-$10 or so? Keep in mind how much you've spent on your system, Speakers, Receiver... Do them justice with some good cabling. Take your time though, it's not a race. I have to keep telling myself that all of the time, otherwise I'd have one hell of a credit card payment. I have $50 a pay going towards my system fund. :D
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    I should start a systm fund as well !! great Idea.....
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited August 2004
    ING Direct. :D
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by dcarlson
    ING Direct. :D

    AFW (away from the wife)
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    4pr kimber 2.75ft$ here !!
    thats what I would use
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by Willow
    4pr kimber 2.75ft$ here !!
    thats what I would use
    I have some 8pr going to the subs on my RT1000i's and 4vs going to the mid/high.
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2004
    Keep an eye on audiogon. I got a 10 foot pair of Kimber 4pr for $20. They were brand new.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    5 $ Ft Don't think my wife would go for that...I would need 25 ft !!
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  • fgr41
    fgr41 Posts: 432
    edited August 2004
    I have boght some Radio Shack 14 ga braided wire that I am very happy with. It's only 22$ for 50ft.
    Front
    Polk RT800i (BI-wired)
    Rear
    Polk RT600i
    Center
    Polk CS400i (BI-wired)
    Sub
    SVS 25-31PCi (22Hz tuning port)... it's SubHuman
    Receiver
    YAMAHA RX-V1400
    TV
    Mitsubishi WT-46807 HDTV
    HD receiver
    T i V o HR10-250
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited August 2004
    Hey Willow, I have a friend that is running that Wal-Mart cable on his system. He has an Onkyo 700 and is playing a CSi5 center, RTi10s as fronts, RTi8s as surrounds, and a set of RTi70s as rear surrounds with a psw505 sub. This sounds pretty damn good to me. Give it try. It won't cost you too much. I laughed at him until I heard it.:D Hell I wish I had found it first instead of monster. I need to replace my surround wires and that may be the way to go.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    thanks.....I am leaning towards Kimber right now but I don't like that I must buy in order to try and I don;t know if the price will be worth the difference...if it only sounds a tadd better then I lost out on some cash but if its 10x better than yes it's good !!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    edited August 2004
    Willow,

    Shop around on Audiogon for some used Kimber or whatever brand you're thinking about. That way if you don't like it, you can resell it with little or no loss.


    BTW, dcarlson has given you excellent advice!
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  • keith allen
    keith allen Posts: 734
    edited August 2004
    I own high price monster cable,and I'll tell ya I'll never buy it again.I rerouted my wire when I bought my sub,had some homdepot wire myself,decided to use it,absolutely no difference!I would recomend,Phillips,RCA,or even popular mechanics speaker wire.
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  • dbournival
    dbournival Posts: 131
    edited August 2004
    I did my system #2with 12Ga speaker wire from Home depot after seeing the posts here. The speakers did not sound as good as I thought they should. I replaced the Mains with some 20 year old Monster Cable I had in my "spares" box and it was considerable improvement. I biwired the center using 14ga & 16ga wire from HD (it was better than the 12ga single). The rears were wired through the walls (before the walls went up) so I left them as is until a week ago. I replaced the 12ga HD wire with Monster XP-CI and they sounded much better. I did one speaker first (2 1/2 hours..) so I could a A/B comparison. After being pleased with the results I did the other...

    I'm now going to replace the Center probably with some sort of Monster Cable Bi-wire...
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited August 2004
    Have you given the HD wire a chance to burn in?
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  • dbournival
    dbournival Posts: 131
    edited August 2004
    I think so, it was installed 3 years ago...
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited August 2004
    :D I thought you meant from the posts in this thread.

    I'd say yeah, 3 years should be long enough. :D
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    I replaced the HD 14AWG in my bedroom system with my old monster sp 16AWG and I thought it had a more full sound...I got the ok from my wife to buy new cables for the main system but I was thinking that 80-100$ on speaker cables just for the fronts might seem to be buying too much (for kimbers)....maybe Im just being cheap right now...it seems I can;t justify spending that amount of cash on speaker cables...to maybe find now difference !!

    not sure what to do.I know I am replacing this weekend the rear cables with some 16awg oxy free cables, not sure by who yet ...I need 100FT monster is too $$ for the lenght I need so I think I will go the HD oxy free. I am running 18awg rca brand cables very cheap !!
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited August 2004
    Pick up some Carol SuperFlex 12ga from Home Depot ($.44/ft) or PartsExpress and don't look back.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    edited August 2004
    Part Number 100-810

    is this what you are talking about ??? from P-E or similar type wire ??
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