Sub equalization. Best noob piece?

EricH
EricH Posts: 140
Which equalizer for bass content should I go with, considering my limited test equipment, as well as experience?

Rat Shack SPL meter
Lasertrak 2500 test disc: 15hz-20k sweep and 10hz-20k tones.

I've heard BFD, Rane PE-17, Art 351 mentioned.


Thanks in advance, Eric.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited August 2004
    I've got one of the BFDs on order...that was reccomended here and on other boards as well...
  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited August 2004
    The BFD is the way to go. It's flexible and cheap. It's called the Behringer Feedback Destroyer 1124, you can find it at any music equipment store. Check out http://www.snapbug.ws/bfd.htm

    It has test tones, a spreadsheet and other goodies. It is THE source for using the BFD as a sub EQ, the manual is not much help.

    Hope this helps.
    Graham
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited August 2004
    Thanks, I've seen that the BFD has the most positive feedback, but I also see lots of Frequency Response charts and so forth. I didn't know if it was easily set up with just an SPL meter and a test cd.
  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by EricH
    Thanks, I've seen that the BFD has the most positive feedback, but I also see lots of Frequency Response charts and so forth. I didn't know if it was easily set up with just an SPL meter and a test cd.

    All you need is a test CD and SPL meter, I suggest downloading the tones from the Snapbug site. They have every frequency from 10 to 125 Hz. It makes plotting very easy. You can make your own spreadsheet or download the one from that site.

    Here are my results Before and After
    Graham
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by gatemplin
    All you need is a test CD and SPL meter, I suggest downloading the tones from the Snapbug site. They have every frequency from 10 to 125 Hz. It makes plotting very easy. You can make your own spreadsheet or download the one from that site.

    I can't download any files. Blocked at my end. My test cd has:

    10 hz
    20
    25
    31.5
    40
    50
    63
    80
    100
    125
    160
    200hz

    Is this enough? Do I need a better test cd?
  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited August 2004
    Not good enough in my opinion. It would be better than nothing but there could be problems in between those tones.This site also has test tones. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Do you have a firewall or something that is blocking the download?
    Graham
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited August 2004
    Yes, and I no longer have the internet at home. Is there a superior test cd out there?
  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited August 2004
    I haven't a clue, but there is no point getting a BFD without more accurate test tones.
    Graham
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited August 2004
    O.K. one of the I.T. guys here is going to download the Snapbug tones for me!
  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited August 2004
    The ones you mentioned are all good. The ART-351 is naturally the easiest to work with, but it is not a parametric EQ. However, what you ought to do is use the test tones to chart your frequency response first. If you see that the peaks on your chart are centered at the frequencies that the ART-351 has sliders for and that they're not very wide (i.e. not covering a large range of frequencies), you can probably get a very good result with an ART-351 (as I have, since my only real room problem was 50Hz). If, however, your peaks lie in between those available frequencies or you have a few very specific narrow peaks, the BFD is likely the best choice.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited August 2004
    Originally posted by kuntasensei
    The ones you mentioned are all good. The ART-351 is naturally the easiest to work with, but it is not a parametric EQ. However, what you ought to do is use the test tones to chart your frequency response first. If you see that the peaks on your chart are centered at the frequencies that the ART-351 has sliders for and that they're not very wide (i.e. not covering a large range of frequencies), you can probably get a very good result with an ART-351 (as I have, since my only real room problem was 50Hz). If, however, your peaks lie in between those available frequencies or you have a few very specific narrow peaks, the BFD is likely the best choice.

    Thanks! I've heard that the graphic EQ's aren't precise enough, but you're right, I may not need precision.