Sda Poll

BobMcG
BobMcG Posts: 1,585
edited February 27 in Clubhouse Archives
Lets see how much interest there is in a new line of quality SDA speakers.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited July 2001
    who wouldn't be ?

    Troy
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • JohanK
    JohanK Posts: 29
    edited July 2001
    I'd only be interested out of curiousity; I think Polk would price these hypothetical SDAs very high.
  • wangotango68
    wangotango68 Posts: 1,056
    edited July 2001
    they would have to sound a hell of a lot better then the older sda's and not look like everybody elses tall skinny speaker i like my old big speaker and it likes me.

    scott
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2001
    Only twenty votes? Who hasn't voted yet?
  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited August 2001
    I can't vote
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2001
    You're not really waiting for the other 25,500 or so "silent" members to chime in are you?

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2001
    Yes! Yes I am! I'm keeping this on top untill all members have voted!

    Ok, ok, maybe not untill all have voted but maybe half.... no? Ok, How about a quarter? Ok, maybe I'm setting my sights too high... how about double the twenty...forty. That's not asking too much is it? Alright, fifty percent more...thirty. That's not unreasonable. Or is it?

    Hey, look! It's up three now!
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2001
    Almost thirty now, mabe forty isn't impossible after all.
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2001
    It looks like thirty seven is the number. Not bad, when it seemed to go stale at twenty. Thanks to the people who voted! This must come close to representing the regulars in the forum and the general interest among us pertaining to new SDAs.
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited August 2001
    I had just got done filling out the monthly drawing comment suggestion on this very subject. I started out saying that the Monitor series should return, then set my sights higher. I don't know if they read this stuff, or if it is just a random number generator (for the drawings), but I know within myself.
    Make it Funky! :)
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited August 2001
    Wow!

    I can't believe the added votes! What a nice sight to see this weekend. 51 votes means there is a pretty good size group of regulars here. Larger than you'd think. This is a good thing. A very good thing.
    Thanks for the participation in this survey!
  • Commodorefirst
    Commodorefirst Posts: 11
    edited September 2001
    BTTT for more votes. Got mine in.
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2001
    To break the sixty mark?

    It looks like we could, soooo..... BTTT with it!
  • Micah Cohen
    Micah Cohen Posts: 2,022
    edited September 2001
    My thoughts (and they don't count, since I work here): SDA is a good thing. Not just because of this fanaticism that it inspires, but from a marketing standpoint because it gives Polk Audio something no one else has. Simple as that.

    Will The Powers That Be ever do anything about that? Who knows? I'll make sure people see this poll.

    Thanks Bob!

    MC
    ultramicah@yahoo.com

    "There's nothing funny about a clown in the moonlight." - Lon Chaney
  • mjmcg
    mjmcg Posts: 102
    edited September 2001
    It wont let me vote...but my mark would be obvious.
  • Aaron
    Aaron Posts: 1,853
    edited September 2001
    ....after your first 61 votes, it decided that was enough from one person! :D

    Aaron
  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited September 2001
    SDA=Good!

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Sony 75" Bravia 4K | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Rotel Michi P5 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
  • vanmyster
    vanmyster Posts: 3
    edited September 2001
    I can't believe the 3 votes for no interest in the SDA's. I have a set of 15 year old SDA IIA's and have recently tried to find something that I could replace them with for under $2,000, no chance, nothing even close including everything Polk makes today. If Polk brings back the SDA's, don't make them ported... Bring back the old Monitor series as well, The Monitor 10's were the best speaker money could buy for the $ for years...
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2001
    Wow! I can't believe it's nearing the seventy mark. With sixtyeight showing and sixtynine if it would take Mike's vote, maybe I'll come home to see the seventy mark reached. Thanks to all voters!
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2001
    It's 12:05, and I am 5 minutes into one TALL glass of Gosling's rum. Finally off telephone alert. I am enjoying this rum too much to figure out what percent 70 is out of 27,000. Right off the top of my rotten little head, I'm figuring you got LESS than a 1% response from this forum. I wish you were here right now Bob, so you could bask in the glory of this excellent Bermudan rum, and we could both laugh our balls off about that pathetic percentage.

    This stuff is sharpening me right up. I'm thinking .25% of the forum responded. No reason why Polk shouldn't run right out and start up the SDA line again.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
  • predator
    predator Posts: 3
    edited September 2001
    Hi All,
    Sorry I haven't been around, but summer is Car time and winter is Audio time! I put in my vote and of course I am extremely interested. Frankly the SDA line is a high-end line and I wouldn't expect most here to have even heard SDA's never mind vote how they liked them and how interested they would be. They have been out of production for a while. I would be willing to bet a very large % of visitors here don't have high-end speakers (based on my post views). IMHO a new (and improved) SDA line would attract a newer group of listeners to Polk. The kind of listeners that people listen to their opinions! It's time for Polk to realize they still need a med-high end to high-end line to support their mid-fi line. Bean counters will not understand this and will fight it to their death! I don't mean to be disrespectful at all, I know it is difficult to justify a line that will never pull in the same $$ as the upper mid-fi lines which is where I see most of the Polk stuff. I am also sure Polk has many discussions on this kind of subject and I suspect there is still research going on. I don't think Matt is sitting back doing nothing. Also, I am not knocking the current lines because I still think they are great quality and performance for the $$. I just feel a lot of people look to the high end Audiophiles for opinions and there isn't much there from Polk now. I don't consider myself an audiophile and still a lot of people ask me a lot of questions. I think it's an uphill battle for Polk to sell at a higher price point than others that have similar specks without higher-end listeners supporting the higher quality and performance claims. Let's face it, most people listen to opinions not specs, because specs don't mean much.

    Build them and they will come,
    Ralph-
    :cool:
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited September 2001
    I have to disagree to a certain extent with some of what Ralph says. I think that Polk IS trying to enter the higher end with the LSi line.
    As much as we would like to see SDA ressurected, I wouldn't hold my breath. I have heard from a few "audiophiles" and believe even Matt Polk said that SDA never gained true audiophile endorsement. If that is the case then yes that only makes it even less likely that SDA's would be brought back. That being said, I personally don't believe that endorsement from the audiophile community is the last word on anything however. I also don't think that Polk is a company run by bean counters but there must be some pretty compelling reasons why SDA is not being employed. My personal opinion is that the buying public is generally disinterested in large, non-powered speakers that require a good power source as opposed to an A/V reciever that couldn't do them justice.

    Troy
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • rmh1
    rmh1 Posts: 9
    edited September 2001
    Have not logged on in a long time. Interesting to see the poll. I have a pair of SDA-SRS-1.2's that will never, ever leave my house. There is STILL no way to obtain a better reproduction of the sound stage unless one is willing to spend many thousands. It would be super for Polk to re-introduce this technology but with current standards of drivers. However, as it was last year on this question, my understanding is the production cost versus sales would not sustain the line of speakers.
  • BobMcG
    BobMcG Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2001
    rmh1,

    While it's true, Polk probably wouldn't quickly sell thousands of a new breed of modern SDA speaker, there would still be a market for a lot of them. The prices would be high, but worth it if the quality was there.
    Take a good, long look around in the world of audio. There are dozens of excellent higher-end speaker manufactures out there. Yes, some of their speakers are rather pricey, but they are well thought out and working designs, with exceptional quality parts, fit and finish. They don't sell enormous volumes of them. They may not make a thousand of them a week or even a month, but they do sell them and they are very fine products.
    IMO, it doesn't sound as though Polk is interested in small production runs. It seems if they can't pump out thousands of a model run at a good pace, for rock bottom, mass production prices and fill the shelves and warehouses of a number of mass market sales outlets, they aren't interested. They'll claim they can't justify doing it. That's all just well and fine. It's up to them. No problemo. It's good the others are out there. It seems to me, Polk would be in a fair position to be able to do it though. You'd think that with the popularity and success they enjoy in the market, they'd be able to support another less mass produced line.
    But then again, what do I know about the inner workings of Polk? So, maybe I'm wrong. It wouldn't be the first time by any means, nor will it be the last. It's just my wandering thoughts.....

    And BTW: As far as the problem with the SDAs never really being accepted by the true "audiophile" community... who gives a rats ****? They have a good, strong, faithful following anyway.
    I do consider myself an audiophile. Why? Because I love audio as a hobby and take it quite serious. However, I know I'm not a member of the true "audiophile " community though. Because: I don't have the price of a house invested in my two channel playback system. I don't support both analog and digital and have the price of a sports car into just the analog playback portion of my system. I don't have season tickets to the opera, or to hear an orchestra, or to listen to live chamber music. I don't have "tube" everything. I don't use 15watt single ended triode amps or the like. For these and other reasons, I'm simply just not with it at all! Audiophile I'm not! Just ask a real one, they'll tell you...
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2001
    Beautiful Bob. The latest Stereophile (got it a couple days ago), while saying nice things about the new Polk Lsi line, also has a $75,000 turntable as a "recommended component".

    This plants me FIRMLY in the audio "enthusiast" camp, not the audioPHILE camp. My turntable was only a grand (arf-arf!).

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
  • wangotango68
    wangotango68 Posts: 1,056
    edited September 2001
    i could not say it any better myself.hell i bought a $20 pioneer turntable just to here my old albums,and i use my reciever as my preamp. what the hell does that make me? smart i guess, i view
    my audio gear as a hobby,not my life when most audio mag.
    get of there high horse and catter to the working man,then ill
    listen. and the comment that polk is not a "true audiofile speaker"? as bob says "who cares"!!

    scott:cool:
  • wangotango68
    wangotango68 Posts: 1,056
    edited September 2001
    speaking of your rum george the little hotty girly girl down the street stoped in a couple of hours ago and said they were moving
    to indy. so she gave my wife a brand new bottle of smirnoff vodka
    and a half gallon of "premium" gin she said here dad did not know about it and she wanted to keep it that way. as van halen
    says "bottoms up"!!

    scott:cool:
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2001
    You got it Scott! I should clear the air. My turntable is an $800 Thorens, with a $300 Joe Grado cartridge on it. I saw it in a used hi-fi shop. Guy wanted $95. I went home and got two Fisher receivers and traded those for it. While I DON'T think vinyl sounds better than digital, there are some parts of my vinyl collection that will NEVER be available on a digital format. You do what you have to do.

    George Grand of the Jersey Grand's)
  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited September 2001
    Rant mode on:

    Personally, I think we're a different definition of audiophile. I think this about myself and more than several others lurking around this Forum. I think most of those of us who have an appreciation for the music, not necessarily just the equipment, are audiophiles in a more grassroots interpretation of the word. If my gear can reproduce my music in such a way that makes me grin even with songs that I've heard over a hundred times or the first time, then what more can I really ask for, whether I've spent a few thousand or a few score thousand? When it comes down to it, it's the music that counts and truly makes the system.

    This brings me to my next point. If I have to listen to opera, chamber music(?), or whatever else to be a classic "audiophile", then I'll gladly take an additional hole in the head than put up with that $#!+. Why is this music considered to be for the audiophiles? Last time I checked, I'm gonna need and want the same equipment dynamics and characteristics whether I'm playing Eddie Vedder or Pavorati(?), a fiddle or a violin, a bass guitar or a stand-up bass, etc., etc. Faithful reproduction is faithful reproduction, no if's, and's, or but's about it!

    Rant mode off:mad: :mad: :mad:

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Sony 75" Bravia 4K | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Rotel Michi P5 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2001
    You call THAT ranting? You bring up excellent points, but are far too docile for true ranting. A tried and true method for the absolute rant condition, is to think about what you want to say, and then smack your fingers with a hammer, and THEN say it.

    A good piece of music, should get your feet tapping, or whatever, even if it's coming out of an AM car radio.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)