Crazy 10 AWG Shotgun Bi-Wire Cable!!

gmorris
gmorris Posts: 1,179
edited July 2004 in Electronics
Here is some cable I found here at work. This stuff is 10-4 rubber insulated cable. We use it here at work to wire Die Casting machines. The foundry is a very dirty, oily place with metal chips flying & all kinds of lubricants and high temperature materials. Thus, the machines are wired with very durable wire.

SOOOO, DIY'er that I am, I could not resist building some speaker cable with this stuff. The conductors are 10 AWG. I'm going to build a Shotgun style, bi-wire cable with it.

When I get the cables built, I'll post some pics of the completed cable, as well as some initial listening impressions. Enjoy....
Bob Mayo, on the keyboards. Bob Mayo.
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited July 2004
    another pic...
    Bob Mayo, on the keyboards. Bob Mayo.
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited July 2004
    one more....
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  • arufener
    arufener Posts: 63
    edited July 2004
    thats a start (thread posted by me "new thread needed")

    Hey that looks like some nice cable, let us know how it turns out.
    Sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path...and walking it.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2004
    Serious speaker-python there. I work in a communications electronics warehouse, you would drewl over the 6awg OFC I have in here.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited July 2004
    {clears throat} grab me some {clears throat} :D

    Cool looking stuff. Looks like a garden hose!
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • wlrandall
    wlrandall Posts: 440
    edited July 2004
    Too darn funny-I made a 14/4 equivalent just two days ago. Couldn't tell a bit of difference between it and a Monster Z1 at about one fifth the price.
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by steveinaz
    Serious speaker-python there. I work in a communications electronics warehouse, you would drewl over the 6awg OFC I have in here.

    Two words Steveo: steal some....

    Originally posted by tryrrthg
    {clears throat} grab me some {clears throat}

    Cool looking stuff. Looks like a garden hose!

    I'll bring the completed cable with me when we go to Progressive. I'll bring you 20' to try.

    Originally posted by wlrandall
    Too darn funny-I made a 14/4 equivalent just two days ago. Couldn't tell a bit of difference between it and a Monster Z1 at about one fifth the price.

    That is exactly the results I'm hoping for!!
    Bob Mayo, on the keyboards. Bob Mayo.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2004
    Shoot G-Mo, that stuff (the 6awg) is so damn stiff you'd need steel conduit to run it to your speakers.. Seriously!!
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by gmorris
    I'll bring the completed cable with me when we go to Progressive. I'll bring you 20' to try.
    Cool, Thanks!

    I don't need a biwire, who knows what wire guage you get when you put two 10 guage wires together?
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by tryrrthg
    Cool, Thanks!

    I don't need a biwire, who knows what wire guage you get when you put two 10 guage wires together?

    I wondered the same thing. In the pic, you can see the black & white conductors are twisted together. I'd say it is about 8 AWG.
    Bob Mayo, on the keyboards. Bob Mayo.
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by steveinaz
    Shoot G-Mo, that stuff (the 6awg) is so damn stiff you'd need steel conduit to run it to your speakers.. Seriously!!


    And you haven't yet tried this because........?;)
    Bob Mayo, on the keyboards. Bob Mayo.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2004
    Looking at samples here in my warehouse, it looks close to 8awg when 2 10's are combined.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • John K.
    John K. Posts: 822
    edited July 2004
    Try, et al, whenever two cables are combined the resulting cross sectional area is doubled and the gauge equivalent is three numbers lower, e.g. two 10ga=7ga. Of course, this is far heavier than needed, unless the run is well over 100 feet, but experiment.
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  • gmorris
    gmorris Posts: 1,179
    edited July 2004
    Originally posted by John K.
    Try, et al, whenever two cables are combined the resulting cross sectional area is doubled and the gauge equivalent is three numbers lower, e.g. two 10ga=7ga. Of course, this is far heavier than needed, unless the run is well over 100 feet, but experiment.

    Thanks. I figured someone knew the answer to that. As far as being overkill, oh well, it looks sweet.;)
    Bob Mayo, on the keyboards. Bob Mayo.
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