Don't be an Audiophile Bully
billbillw
Posts: 7,064
This article is perhaps a reminder for us to remember what it's like in the early stages of exploring this hobby.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/dont-let-audiophiles-bully-you-out-of-being-an-audiophile/
Key take away: "Enjoy the music, it’s why we’re here"
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/dont-let-audiophiles-bully-you-out-of-being-an-audiophile/
Key take away: "Enjoy the music, it’s why we’re here"
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I don't think that (for the most part), the folks here at Club Polk are bullies. Many of us in this group bend over backwards to help newbies, and even highly experienced members, out. Sure, do some folks get ribbed a little bit when they come on here and ask, "Do I need an air hole?". I mean, come on. The cat was using a cardboard box for a sub. This is, after all, the internet and when a question like that is asked?
Well, answering the question with a straight face is admittedly hard to do.
Many times, on this board and others, people get bullied because they join to "educate" members on known falsehoods. There are even known falsehoods written in the article itself. You know the kind of folks I am talking about. The cats that come on and state (as fact) that cables don't make any difference at all. That ASR has verified this or that, and that Topping is all one would ever need. The ones that join this and other boards to educate folks who know full damned well that digital isn't just, "ones and zero's". It's way more complicated and involved than that.
So, my question back to the author is this. Is it these type folks that get bullied, or is it them that is doing the bullying?
Most of the regular and old school members of this forum simply like to share their experiences they have encountered in audio, talk about their own personal audio journey, and help folks out along the way.
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I think some (most?) people are too easily offended if they get a short and to-the-point answer, usually to a question that’s probably been asked a million times and previously elaborated on.
Also, I come here realizing that I’m ignorant about most things audio. Maybe if there was more humility there would be less bullying?
Brian
One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM -
Many of us in this group bend over backwards
Well, that's nice however......does anyone bend over forwards???
Aug gug gug gug couldn't resist....I think some (most?) people are too easily offended
Sadly, that's rampant all over the U.S. for sure....
All I really want to know is......am I using this quote feature correctly????
Aug gug gug gug sorry Bill, couldn't resist......It's my nature dude, I'm born on April 1st....
Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
All I really want to know is......am I using this quote feature correctly????
https://youtu.be/Jne9t8sHpUc
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
LOL...wait, I don't get it.....hey, are those three girls sisters???? Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
I thought this thread was about bullying audiophiles.Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears
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I thought this thread was about bullying audiophiles.
It was, but that bastardo Gee-off came in and derailed it......must be getting close to his birthday, 4/1 when everyone tries to trick him.....so he's feelin......onery
BTW, my gf says I'm older than dirt so, I don't get tricked anymore Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Generally, the only time I see “bullying” here is when one of three things happen:
1. Someone asks a question or asks for advice, then proceeds to argue with the answer/advice given.
2. Someone asks for an opinion on a specific piece of gear, then gets defensive when others offer their opinion of said gear.
3. Someone makes a blanket statement (vinyl is better than digital, cables don’t matter, etc). If you spend more than about a day in serious pursuit of this hobby, it’s impossible to believe almost all blanket statements.
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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The only thing I don’t like is when someone, for example, asks about an entry level piece of gear and is directed to a piece that costs twice as much. Part of the fun for me was getting that entry level gear and thinking it was great until I realized it wasn’t and I decided to upgrade. It’s the more expensive route in the long run, but it’s been a fun ride for me, and I’ve had several different pieces of gear in my system throughout the years.Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.—Martin Luther King Jr. -
I've only been a member here since 2010. I really haven't seen any bullying going on, the occasional belittling of someone but that's about it.Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
I've only been a member here since 2010. I really haven't seen any bullying going on, the occasional belittling of someone but that's about it.
Seriously? You really are about as smart as a box of rocks… 🤣🤣🤣 I jest of course.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
nooshinjohn wrote: »
Seriously? You really are about as smart as a box of rocks… 🤣🤣🤣 I jest of course.
Hey sir.....to some people, that would be a compliment......so, thank you Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Gotta define "bullying" first, there, broseph.
Getting your feelings hurt by the truth or reality isn't bullying. It's just reality and/or tough love. If this hurts you, wear a helmet 'cause life is hard, ain't it?
Getting your feelings hurt by someone who perpetually follows every post you make and turns it into a defecation slinging match is bullying. You have every right to be upset.
There are those who do the following and slinging that make a nuisance of themselves yet claim bullying when they are called on their behavior and/or poor decision making.
There are also those who are fairly blunt and straight-forward, calling a spade a spade.
Being a slinging nuisance is just as much of being a bully as an actual bully. The hypocrisy is palpable.
Being blunt and to the point with a seeming disregard for feelings is not bullying, it's just a lack of tact.
I blame it on a failure in parenting.
In summation, here's the immortal words of Mr. Grand to satiate your desires to bring levity to a lofty hobby.George Grand wrote: »Is it me, or is too much of this happening on this forum:
Person #1 - "Hi my name is Codfish and I currently have a Toyota. I'm THINKING of buying a Lexus but it might be a financial stretch. Does anybody have any experience with these? Thanks."
Person #2 - "Hey, try the Rolls-Royce. I read that they're okay, but expensive."
Is this HELPING anyone?
George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/281/gripe/p1
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I never knew the man in person, I sure do miss his smack downs, he could do it with cotton candy and make it hurt......from the laughter 🩵
