Picked up some 7b's for free!

A buddy of mine had a set of 7b's sitting in his basement, and he gave them to me for free recently (I *did* offer him payment, but he wouldn't take it), with a warning that one of the tweeters (which appear to be Peerless, correct?) was bad:

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When I got them home and checked them out, as many of you probably guessed the tweeter problem turned out to be a bad fuse. Replaced it and the tweeter lit right up. Can't be happier with them - they sound amazing set up on a couple of makeshift stands, even if cosmetically they're a little rough around the edges.

About that, I notice that on the top of both speakers there are three dimples in the veneer that look like the top of a screw or a nail. On one them, there's bubbling under the veneer that seems most likely to me to be corrosion from such a fastener:

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Is there bracing in this area that would use fasteners? Any idea what these dimples might be?

Eventually I plan to re-veneer and re-cap them, but my priority now is to pull the woofer and secure the magnet - it hasn't come loose yet, but an ounce of prevention, etc.

Here they are in situ - placement isn't ideal, and I need to get a legitimate set of speaker stands, but it all works for now:

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Comments

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,532
    Someone likely had them mounted. There is nothing in the speakers to cause that. Have you looked at the bottoms for other screws?

    That's a vinyl covering, not wood veneer.
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  • buckaroo
    buckaroo Posts: 6
    edited November 13
    Yeah, I figured it was vinyl - just used the wrong word :) . I want to peel it off and replace it with real wood veneer eventually.

    I thought about the possibility of screw-mounting points (yes, the marks are on the bottom as well), but it didn't make sense to me that the vinyl is unbroken. I wonder if something heavy was sitting on it? But then what would the apparent corrosion bubbling under the vinyl be? Unless the vinyl is not original? I guess I won't find out until I peel it all off...
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,532
    edited November 13
    It's original vinyl.

    The vinyl is broken, it has screws driven into it.

    The bubbling is the particleboard falling apart and trapped under the vinyl.

    You'll need a heat gun to help remove the vinyl. Best to start on a back edge corner. Heat a small area, pull up that small area, heat another small area and repeat until skinned clean. Fair warning, it isn't easy.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut wrote: »
    The vinyl is broken, it has screws driven into it.

    At first I thought, "no way. I'm looking right at it, and it's unbroken." But then I looked closer, and started poking at it, and it turns out that you're of course correct: it looks to just be a really well color-matched waxy filler, probably something like this: https://www.fastcap.com/product/softwax-kit.

    That puts that "mystery" to bed.

    And yeah, getting the old vinyl off is going to be a bear - that's why I'm saving it for last, after I address other age-related maintenance. I'm just tickled to have such a great-sounding set of classic speakers, regardless of looks.
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,635
    Have you done a air leak test yet ? Are the holes thru ? Push in & HOLD IN on the passive & watch the MW come out. Should stay out 3-5 seconds before going back to resting position. If less then you got leak
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,785
    Numerous reports here and at - ahem - certain dumpster-diver web forums ;) of de-vinyling these old cabinets. It looks (to use a phrase from math textbooks) straightforward.
  • buckaroo
    buckaroo Posts: 6
    edited November 14
    boston1450 wrote: »
    Have you done a air leak test yet ? Are the holes thru ? Push in & HOLD IN on the passive & watch the MW come out. Should stay out 3-5 seconds before going back to resting position. If less then you got leak

    No leaks, happily!
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Numerous reports here and at - ahem - certain dumpster-diver web forums ;) of de-vinyling these old cabinets. It looks (to use a phrase from math textbooks) straightforward.

    I'll dig around - it'll be good to see what I'm in for!

    Loving the sound of these more and more the longer I listen to them - if I had to characterize them, I'd say they're "relaxed" or "laid back." An entirely pleasant listen, no fatiguing harshness at all.
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,280
    Toolfan66 wrote: »

    Yeah, yeah, but they are still very cool😎
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  • Toolfan66 wrote: »

    Holy Moley :D ! Not my style, but ya gotta admire the attention to detail!
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,375
    If you remove the mid-woofer or PR, make sure the batting is pushed up into place behind the mid-woofer and tweeter but not behind the PR. It tends to fall down.
    Stan

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  • skrol wrote: »
    If you remove the mid-woofer or PR, make sure the batting is pushed up into place behind the mid-woofer and tweeter but not behind the PR. It tends to fall down.
    Good advice, thanks!