Qobuz Recommended Albums

Streaming Qobuz really opens the opportunity to listen to an incredible variety of "music". Last night I scrolled through the list of "Recommended albums". Some of it was not in my comfort zone, but really good, but others were a whole new level of unlistenable noises that the artist thought were worthy of recording. It actually made me uncomfortable, so I wonder if there are people who actually enjoy music with no rhythm and combinations of sounds that are actually irritating and leave you feeling anxious. I wish I had a pad and pen, so I could take notes during, but I didn't so I can't specify the artists or titles.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    Yosi Horikawa ring a bell?

    There are a plethora of artists that take recordings of random things and shape these sounds into their version of music. They are known as sound designers. Some are awesome at their craft. Many of them are.......well, not.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    I'm sure limp bizkit didn't make this list

    Most rap music I've heard from the past five years would qualify
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • newbie308
    newbie308 Posts: 770
    I can tolerate rap in very small doses. Especially when it's freestyle and you can understand the lyrics. Besides, the bass in rap really makes the subwoofer dance, and I like that. The unintelligible muttering to an electric drum beat does nothing for me.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    How about Billie Eilish? "I love you"?

    This is an example of soundscaping....

    Billie's brother is as much as an artist as she is. More so, in many aspects. He is the artist, yet she is ALSO an artist. Who is the prominent one? Heck if I know at this point in time....time will tell.

    All I know is that the both of the combined are a combo from audio heaven. You and others may or may not realize this at this point but you (and others) will, as time marches on.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,952
    ^^ This post brought to you by tequila.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    Actually? I had zero to follow up on. This is what it is.

    Soundscaping could be a start with this. Maybe? Maybe not.

    Many, many bands and solo artists would agree. Alcohol isn't even part of the equation. Sorry to disappoint.

    Tom
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    Billie and her brother put out some fantastic recordings, industry standard
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  • newbie308
    newbie308 Posts: 770
    I was listening to Billie on my drive East to my Mom's house yesterday. I really like her music.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    Here is another example of sound scaping. Try listening to Symbolico. A song called, "Dreamy Face".

    It's just sounds, mixed together....to make music. I don't know about you but I can definitely dig it. It sounds fantastic on my rig. There is so much information coming to you, it is hard to keep up at times. Height, depth and sounds that come from nowhere to everywhere.

    Not your "typical" music.....but for some reason? I love it.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • newbie308
    newbie308 Posts: 770
    Have you listened to The Books, The Lemon of Pink?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    No, but I will when I get back home.

    Tom
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,815
    edited August 5
    Tom,
    If you want to hear some really crazy "sound scaping," try out the band Son Lux (I'm pretty sure I saw it on Qobuz).
    It may be too strange for some of the folks here, but they do some really creative stuff with sound manipulation. I'd skip the early albums and start with Bones from 2015, which is when the group went from a 1-man show to a trio which really evolved the sound. I wouldn't say their albums are all great front to back, but there are some real gems mixed in. I get chills and hairs standing up on some of their stuff.
    If you only try one song, give "Change Is Everything" a listen at a reasonably high volume.
    The first time I heard the group was for the soundtrack of "Everything Everywhere All At Once", but didn't place them until my daughter had a dance recital last summer and a group of the older dancers did one of those modern 'interprative' dances to the song "A Different Kind of Love" off their Tomorrows III album. That song was so haunting and chill inducing, I searched for the artist for months until I was able to get a recording of the dance performance and Shazam it! Then I went to town listening to their collection from the beginning.





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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    I'll check them out. Thanks.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,815
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I'll check them out. Thanks.

    Tom

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    It's gotta be better than rap and opera, no?

    Tom
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,815
    Who calls it "rap" music these days? Seriously, there are so many variations of using the 'spoken word' or rhyming poetic style of lyrics. Some of it is musically beautify. Some of it is low-brow. All of it is better than most country music IMO. Opera, well, I do enjoy some of the famous Loony Tunes classics, but yeah, its hard to sit through any of them entirely, even the Barber of Seville.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    Just so I'm in the know, is there some thing wrong with calling it rap music? Is it considered derogatory?

    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • newbie308
    newbie308 Posts: 770
    I am not sure what @billbillw is saying either. I am no expert, but I suppose he means that like rock, rap has a lot of sub genre and they differ significantly. Maybe he can elaborate a bit?
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,530
    Qobuz doesn't really have it exactly right, but they do what's common usage and use Hip Hop/Rap as being the same broad genre resulting in 2.2 million albums falling under their huge genre grouping. There's a whole lot of variety of subgenres in there. But, they do identify multiple sub-genres for other types of music like classical and jazz. There are many identifiable sub-genres of Rap within Hop Hop music but not all Hip Hop music that people think is Rap is really Rap. Tidal has always focused more of their attention on Hip Hop and Rap music.

    https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/genre/rap-hip-hop/download-streaming-albums
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,815
    edited August 6
    Ok, maybe I'm off. I have mostly use the term Hip Hop or R&B to those styles of music, but I guess there are still Grammy Award categories for Best Rap Performance/Song/Album. I thought it was a tired old term from the early 80s, but apparently the industry still uses it.
    To me, it boxes in music to that old style when production values were very low, and they only used one or two samples and a beat box. Newer stuff (into the 90s and 2000s) has a much higher production quality. Dre really started that trend.
    Most of the music I enjoy these days has some (or often a great) amount of fusion between genres.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,815
    edited August 6
    newbie308 wrote: »
    I am not sure what @billbillw is saying either. I am no expert, but I suppose he means that like rock, rap has a lot of sub genre and they differ significantly. Maybe he can elaborate a bit?

    Part of what I was getting at is that "rapping" style of lyrics can often be found in other completely different genres of music. Think of the bands 311, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Soul Coughing, The Prodigy, Blondie, Gorillaz, etc. Just think of how many different artists that Snoop Dogg has collaborated with in the last 20 years.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited August 6
    Tomato....tomatoe.....

    I very well may be off the mark here but Rap is Rap, Hip Hop is Hip Hop and all of the other sub genres are what they are.

    I don't subscribe to a, "genre"....music is music, no matter how one may caterogize it.

    I personally do not like Rap or Opera. I can appreciate as well as respect the both of them but simply do not prefer either.

    Where are we at again in this thread?

    BTW, the recommended Qobuz weekly albums this week? Freakin' love them!

    Tom

    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    The closest I am to opera would be Andrea Bocelli... That dude can sing to me anytime he wants
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