Looking for Soldering Iron Recommendations

kevhed72
kevhed72 Posts: 5,059
I may give vintage hifi repair a try...looking for recommendations on soldering and de-soldering equipment. Hakoo seems to get a good rap, and I also checked out Parts Express. Any input would be appreciated....

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,729
    I've been using a Weller wes51 I believe it is for over a decade. Works great

    I have a hakko fr301 desoldering vacuum that is all absolute beast
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  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited June 19
    I've purchased cheap in the past and wished I'd paid a bit more. Very solid iron...super fast to target temp and easy to set w/the digital selector:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077JDGY1J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
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    Can't tell you how frustrating rookie de-soldering can be. Braids, solder suckers, etc...they suck are a PITA for a weekend warrior compared to a Hakko. Not cheap but won't break the bank. Awesome and worth every penny:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BFVFMS9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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    Had I purchased the above (or similar) when I first joined CP in 2009 I'd have spent once and not had/wanted to upgrade from a cheaper iron and manual desoldering. Assuming they last a good number of years...you'd be set for the long haul.

    Also, suggest, buy a tip assortment at the same time that covers small to larger soldering for the respective sets. I was a Boy Scout and no better advice than "be prepared". A "helping hand" is another worthwhile investment.

    No doubt you can find comparable soldering irons as the Weller but the Hakko is the bee's knees when it comes to sucking. You'll wonder how you ever lived without it!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
    edited June 19
    I've had one of these for 20 yrs. Heats up quick and holds temp, solid station.

    https://www.circuitspecialists.com/60_Watt_Soldering_Station
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    I would recommend a Weller. Like Trey and Jaycee, they are worth the extra cost. Being able to heat up quickly is a must in my book, and that they do.

    I agree, you don't want to go cheap with these. Low cost soldering gear can wreak havoc on your projects and cost you more money in the long run.

    Tom
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,546
    Here’s what I use - Amazon even remembers when I bought it, lol..

    The key to soldering is high heat and quickness - which takes practice. I go 700 degrees for lead solder and 800 for silver, on and off the traces in <1 second. Low-ish heat is deceptively dangerous, because you have to apply it too long, and you end up heating nearby components.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,885
    edited June 19
    How serious are you about soldering? Metcal inductive soldering equipment is hard to beat -- it's expensive, but Metcal stations can be found used at reasonable prices. I am continuing to think hard about taking the plunge. :#
    https://store.metcal.com/en-us/shop/soldering-desoldering/soldering-desoldering-systems/

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,643
    Weller
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    Please refrain yourself from a recommendation, Jesse.....

    Please, don't hold back...

    You are a trip man.....

    Tom
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,111
    edited June 19
    I could barely solder at all until I got a soldering station. Got even better with Cardas Quad.

    I once melted a soldering tip. Couldn't understand why it wasn't tinning, and read that that was usually due to a dirty tip. So I cleaned it. No change. Cleaned again. No change. Cleaned furiously. With emery cloth. That's better. Hey, what are these big drops falling heavily on my stuff? Hey, why is the tip scalloped...

    During the furious cleaning, I wound up removing the plating. Turns out that stuff is important. The big drops were the tip disintegrating. Seemed like some kind of copper blend in there.

    That was with a general purpose Weller pencil type from a big box store. I'm not sure what that thing was supposed to be for, or why I couldn't tin it. Maybe it wasn't the right solder. I don't recall the working temps of either, but I vaguely recall that the solder seemed to be repelled by the iron.

    "Heat the connection, not the solder" has never really worked for me. All that did was melt insulation, and who knows what to chips. Kinda figured out that a nice soldering station with a tinned tip at the connection and then adding solder seems to do the trick. Get in and out quickly.

    Do you guys ever need a heat sink for anything you work on?

    Also, wearing shorts while soldering when you're a rookie may be unwise.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,803
    edited June 20
    I've been getting by with El cheapo 25w stand alone soldering iron for years. Maybe it was something I picked up from Frys? I wish I had invested in a better setup early on. Most of my big projects are long in the past though. Now it barely sees use unless it is a quick fix of something.
    The Weller station is definitely worth the initial cost if you plan on sticking with the hobby.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,059
    This thread is turning into an invaluable source of information. Thanks dudes...
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,885
    daddyjt wrote: »
    Here’s what I use - Amazon even remembers when I bought it, lol..

    The key to soldering is high heat and quickness - which takes practice. I go 700 degrees for lead solder and 800 for silver, on and off the traces in <1 second. Low-ish heat is deceptively dangerous, because you have to apply it too long, and you end up heating nearby components.

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    Great points! It seems paradoxical, but a lower powered iron can do more damage due to the long contact times required to heat a connection enough for solder to flow. For me, the biggest danger of a too-small iron is lifting traces, especially on old PCBs. Quick, hot, in and out is the way the pros solder.
    I am not recommending this, but my father used a Weller soldering gun for almost all of his repair work! If one needs to unsolder the lugs on a twist-lock can capacitor, e.g., a gun's the way to go. :#
  • SeleniumFalcon
    SeleniumFalcon Posts: 3,831
    My first really good soldering iron was a Heathkit and you assembled all the mechanical parts first and then using it as an iron you soldered all the connections. In effect it soldered itself.

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,549
    WOW! That is prehistoric.....
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  • SeleniumFalcon
    SeleniumFalcon Posts: 3,831
    I believe Thomas Edison used one just like it.
  • SeleniumFalcon
    SeleniumFalcon Posts: 3,831
    Not many people know that Billy the Kid was an avid electronics enthusiast.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,885
    Prehistoric soldering irons... you see... predated fire and thus humankind's conquering of heat.

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    I remember those Heathkit soldering stations. :) Never had one, though.
    I do have my father's Weller soldering station. It was a good one and served him well -- I don't know if tips are still available for it... but admittedly I've never looked too hard. :#
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,111
    That's my favorite "doing it wrong" photo.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,803
    msg wrote: »
    That's my favorite "doing it wrong" photo.

    I can almost smell the burning flesh!
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  • SeleniumFalcon
    SeleniumFalcon Posts: 3,831
    But at least she's wearing safety glasses.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,116
    When marketing goes bad 101....

    Tom
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,885
    But at least she's wearing safety glasses.

    she may need them when her reflexes kick in. B)
  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    Hakko FX888D, very happy with it, heats up super-quick.

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