hifonics or phoenix gold

Systems

Hello new to forum.

Toyota Tacoma Extra Cab
4 mmc650 front doors installed, not yet in rear.
pionerDEH P-550mp Hu
mm12 sub

I want to put my amps under my seats. I am limited to space. I cant decide between PG tantrum 400.4 4 x 50
http://www.phoenixgold.com/2004/tantrumamps.html
to power all 650's or Hifonics zx4400 4 x 55
http://www.hifonicsusa.com/hifonics/amps_zeus.html

I will power the sub with Hifonics Zx 4000 I think this will be enough power and I like the remote bass boost or is this just a dumb thing that you will never use?

The hifonics zx4400 might be a little tight do you think 5 watts is worth the squeze and are this amps underrated? their web site sucks.

exalted512

id get the HiFonics, and yes they are underrated
go to www.acaraudio.com and find the amp you want...then call sounddomain and theyll match or beat their price
-Cody

MacLeod

Most high end amps are underrated and you are right that Hifonics website is pretty much worthless. Its part of what has turned me off to them.

If it were me Id go with Phoenix Gold. Im not saying Hifonics would be a bad choice because I dont know much about them. I do however know a good bit about Phoenix Gold and they are excellent, competition level amps. They are built very well and are also quite underrated.

The Tantrum series has been discontinued but Im sure you can still find them on the web for good prices.

Here is another option. Forget about rear speakers altogether and get this Titanium 400.2 which is a super clean 100x2 (.001% THD and 110 db SNR). They have been discontinued and so they can be had at really good prices.

You can also bridge the amp for 400x1 to run your subs.

SlainNothing

PG are high quality though
hifonics are great quality to price.

i'd go with hifonics

Systems

Well I think the zx4400 is tight. I tried a test fit the otherday. From what I keep reading maybe I should not run the rears and just have two 2 channels. I got the 650's at a good price and would like to use them. CC $99.00 + $ 50.00 C.C. loss of good product was my gain.

MacLeod

Yeah, rear speakers are only impotant if you want your passengers to have the best possible soundstage.

However it will hurt the front seat soundstage which is the most important 'cause thats where the guy that pays for everything sits and his opinion counts most!

exalted512

I helped install a zeus 6400 on july 4th...awesome amp...lots of tuning capabilities...very beautiful amps
still contemplating getting them over USAmps for the next set up
-Cody

AustinKP

Originally posted by exalted512
I helped install a zeus 6400 on july 4th...awesome amp...lots of tuning capabilities...very beautiful amps
still contemplating getting them over USAmps for the next set up
-Cody

It'd sure save you a lot of money. That's the exact amp I'm looking at for my MM6's and a Koda 10.

Kschultz76

I have a ZX6400 installed in my car guys and it is great......lots of power and features for a great price.

I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a good quality 4 channel amp, and you can get it for a great price at www.onlinecarstereo.com

- Kevin

MacLeod

Originally posted by exalted512
I helped install a zeus 6400 on july 4th...awesome amp...lots of tuning capabilities...very beautiful amps
still contemplating getting them over USAmps for the next set up
-Cody

What did you think of its overall build quality and such. Did it put out much heat when pushed? What did you think of its output?

Jstas

I have a Zeus Z800 in my girlfriend car. It gets hot but not excessivly. I have yet to push it to it's limits and it's powering a pair of Clarion Pro-Audio 5x7 inch plates and a pair of Pioneer 6x8 in 3 ways and an MM104 off of the 5th, D-class channel. It's performance amazes me especially for what I paid for it. It's build quality ranks with the best I have seen and they are very well put together. They are so solid, it's almost like they were cut out of a single piece of metal. Totally worth every red cent. Great build quality, clean and strong power and great looks.

MacLeod

Cool.

I am very interested in using Hifonics amps in my "upgraded" system because the ZX4000 is right were I want to be power wise. 100 rms to my Focal comps and 400 to whatever sub I finally decide on, not to mention its at a great price!

However I cant find a dealer within a light year of me (well they could have one 2 blocks down the road but they wont respond to any of my requests for local dealers) and I dont know anybody that has one so I never get to check one out.

I guess the best thing about them is that you dont see them in every system. Thats also a good thing about MTX amps, they are pretty rare too. Im tired of opening up magazines or checking out dude's systems I meet from time to time and seeing nothing but Rockford Fosgate or JL Audio!

It reminds me of the early 90s when everybody ran MB speakers, PPI amps and JL subs. Doesnt anybody want to be different anymore?

exalted512

Originally posted by Jstas
I have a Zeus Z800 in my girlfriend car. It gets hot but not excessivly. I have yet to push it to it's limits and it's powering a pair of Clarion Pro-Audio 5x7 inch plates and a pair of Pioneer 6x8 in 3 ways and an MM104 off of the 5th, D-class channel. It's performance amazes me especially for what I paid for it. It's build quality ranks with the best I have seen and they are very well put together. They are so solid, it's almost like they were cut out of a single piece of metal. Totally worth every red cent. Great build quality, clean and strong power and great looks.

100% agreed
stellar amps
his didnt get hot at all, but he had a fan on it
mind you onlinecarstereo are not authorized dealers of anything they sell to my knowledge, the only warranty they include is a warranty through the website and not the manufacturer
i wish i wouldve gotten them instead of my RF...
i wanted too...but they were too expensive because I hadn't found acaraudio and didnt know about sounddomain's pricematch anyway
so i made the biggest car audio mistake of my life and ordered from thezeb
-Cody

Systems

Macleod I called Hifonics originaly to get specs. They gave me all the info that I wanted. The lady on the phone was nice. She asked for area codes in my area and gave a list of authorized dealers. She also told me that the web site will be updated ?

OK Do you think the zx 4000 will be to much power for the mm650's ?

What do I do with my extra set of 650?

Any body out there with amps under toyota tacoma seats?

Is 400 W's enough for my mm12 ?

Maybe I wil bet two zx 4000.

MacLeod

Well Im glad you had better luck than I have. Im kind of over trying to get hold of them now tho.

100x2 will be plenty of juice for the Momo 6.5. However I wouldnt go much over that.

The MM12 handles 500 and the Zeus puts out 400 which is ok but its as low as I would recommend going. Generally a speaker will sound best when operated as near as possible to the rated power without going over.