16mh Inductors C-Coil Jantzen

Toolfan66
Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
edited February 20 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I would like to know others thoughts on mounting these. Ivan and I has talked about this a little, but I’m interested in what others have to say, and how you have mounted them.
Yes the old style is mounted directly behind the boards, and honestly that’s kind of what I would like to do with these. I will post pics below.

Is the thought of mounting them as far away from the board as you can correct?

Below is what I would like to do, I would like to make something (a little bigger of course) like the little round delrin piece you see, that piece is like the ones I used in my monitor 7’s, but you get the idea..

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    edited February 20
    You can see in the picture how I mounted the one in my monitor 7’s

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    I should note, on my 1.2tl’s I had the Solen inductors, and they are heavy and massive compared to the C-Coils, and for that reason I mounted them to the floor of the speaker.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    these need to be minimum 1 ft from the other inductors - extremely large field on the C Coil
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,107
    What is all this talk about using stolen inductors? Stealing inductors is immoral!

    Oh SOLEN inductors.

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,553
    VR3 wrote: »
    these need to be minimum 1 ft from the other inductors - extremely large field on the C Coil

    Good thing I'm done reproducing.....
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,116
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I would like to know others thoughts on mounting these. Ivan and I has talked about this a little, but I’m interested in what others have to say, and how you have mounted them.
    Yeah, I wouldn't listen to Ivan, either.

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    msg wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I would like to know others thoughts on mounting these. Ivan and I has talked about this a little, but I’m interested in what others have to say, and how you have mounted them.
    Yeah, I wouldn't listen to Ivan, either.

    LOL!!!
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    Keep it well clear of any magnetic metal as well. That laminated steel core loves to interact with it.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    edited February 21
    VR3 wrote: »
    these need to be minimum 1 ft from the other inductors - extremely large field on the C Coil

    Yeah I get that, and as I told Ivan, it makes sense, and I know that is what I will do.
    I really was just showing what I would like to do, keeping it together, but not a big deal with the real estate inside the 2.3TL’s.

    This was just more about stirring up the conversation of what others have done and why.

    But I also look at how close some of these builds get, like the CRS+’s, Sean’s build was very tight, even with most of the crossover on the outside..

    Also the 3.1TL builds, depending on what is done, same thing..

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    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    nice!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    is that 3/4" delrin? $$$$$$
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    edited February 23
    It was a 2ft stick of 3.750 Round Bar of Delrin $158.00

    And thanks!! :smiley:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    Price increases in delrin since a few years ago is wild
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,553
    edited February 23
    VR3 wrote: »
    Price increases in delrin since a few years ago is wild

    In case you've not noticed EVERYTHING has wildly went up. 😁
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    Indeed
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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    This is one upgrade I haven't tried yet. Still using stock large coil, but have tried the Erse Super Q and that seemed to improve the bass response a little IIRC.
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    gmcman wrote: »
    This is one upgrade I haven't tried yet. Still using stock large coil, but have tried the Erse Super Q and that seemed to improve the bass response a little IIRC.

    I'm switching out my Erse super Q's for the C-coil. That voice never quieted in my head that I was missing that last bit.
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    gmcman wrote: »
    This is one upgrade I haven't tried yet. Still using stock large coil, but have tried the Erse Super Q and that seemed to improve the bass response a little IIRC.

    I'm switching out my Erse super Q's for the C-coil. That voice never quieted in my head that I was missing that last bit.

    I think the C-Coil will outperform the Erse. I just wonder if it will outperform the Solen.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    The c coil has dramatically lower dcr then the solen, it's no contest.

    The c coil is the definition of the perfect sda inductor.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    VR3 wrote: »
    The c coil has dramatically lower dcr then the solen, it's no contest.

    The c coil is the definition of the perfect sda inductor.

    That’s what I’m hoping for, I still have my solen’s so I could A/B them if I so choose to, but I’m hoping to just be happy with what I do, and enjoy them..
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,553
    edited February 23
    Big Larry which one do you have? The Jantzan is DCR: 0.16R

    https://solen.ca/en/products?query=16 mh inductor
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    edited February 23
    For comparison the c coils are around .08 dcr... Correction, the one I used on Sean's was .1dcr
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    edited February 23
    The link shows the solen is .5 dcr for the 10 awg 16mh
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    edited February 23
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Big Larry which one do you have? The Jantzan is DCR: 0.16R

    https://solen.ca/en/products?query=16 mh inductor

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    It was like $400.00 for the pair back in the day..
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,553
    Those are stupid expensive now. Over $200 each. Crazy!
    I think going from .5 to .1 should be noticable.
    I know it will be for the Erse laminated Super Q
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Those are stupid expensive now. Over $200 each. Crazy!
    I think going from .5 to .1 should be noticable.
    I know it will be for the Erse laminated Super Q

    I think so as well.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    edited February 23
    Going from the North Creek’s to the Solens were noticeable back when I swapped them out, I don’t remember what the DCR was on the North Creek’s, that was a long time ago.
    Ray probably remembers, I’m sure it was in one of his threads, he did all the leg work, I just followed like a little puppy wanting a new owner.
    Ray should have received a commission check from these places for the money he got us to spend. 🤣
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,294
    Found it.

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