Rhino releases - Dire Straights pre-order for 2024
treitz3
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https://store.rhino.com/en/rhino-store/artists/dire-straits/live-1978-1992-8cd/603497827367.html
I just ran across this. Many of you may know that I am a big fan of Mark and the musicians he plays with and I have more albums from him than any other artist in my collection.
With that said, I am becoming very picky with what I buy now. I am interested in this set (LP or CD) but I do not recall having any experience with Rhino records, other than the ones I have mixed into in my collection. Seeing as how this company doesn't stick out, in my mind, amongst the crowd for stellar to above average recordings, (like Chesky, Blue Note, DCC, Telarc, etc...), would this even be worth considering?
I'll have to go through and see what Rhino's I have in my collection and if they are even associated with great recordings (any) but instead of wasting my time doing this across a huge assortment of albums, I figured I'd ask here.
You think this would be worth it or not?
The price is good but if the label ain't? Then it simply comes down to a waste of my money.....and I have a plethora of recordings from Mark (even bootleg) and the various musicians he has accompanied himself with over the years.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts you may have on this.
Tom
I just ran across this. Many of you may know that I am a big fan of Mark and the musicians he plays with and I have more albums from him than any other artist in my collection.
With that said, I am becoming very picky with what I buy now. I am interested in this set (LP or CD) but I do not recall having any experience with Rhino records, other than the ones I have mixed into in my collection. Seeing as how this company doesn't stick out, in my mind, amongst the crowd for stellar to above average recordings, (like Chesky, Blue Note, DCC, Telarc, etc...), would this even be worth considering?
I'll have to go through and see what Rhino's I have in my collection and if they are even associated with great recordings (any) but instead of wasting my time doing this across a huge assortment of albums, I figured I'd ask here.
You think this would be worth it or not?
The price is good but if the label ain't? Then it simply comes down to a waste of my money.....and I have a plethora of recordings from Mark (even bootleg) and the various musicians he has accompanied himself with over the years.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts you may have on this.
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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Rhino is the back catalog distributor for Warner Music and Warner was the label for Dire Straits in the US market. It's very common for Rhino to do reissues in a remastered form with live or demo "bonus" tracks that weren't officially released. Because Rhino is an arm of Warner they have access to original recording media. In my experience Rhino isn't like a specialist audiophile company where audio quality is the paramount goal but they do a fair to excellent job depending on the original sources they're working with. Their main focus is getting back catalog albums out with the bonus material included to make further album sales.
For the box set they'll be releasing in January there is a lot of material being put in one package that won't be available elsewhere. It's really like releasing things from the music vault that didn't make the cut to be included before. Typically Rhino will either fill up the rest of the space on a single CD or add a second CD's worth of bonus material. It's definitely worth considering for those who want to have a more complete collection of live recordings from Dire Straits in good audio quality. Since I don't have either of their main live albums on CD I'd consider buying this package. -
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Eh, I stopped buying their crap. The last 8 or 9 things I bought from them were bombs. They used to be really good at what they did but after being burned with hundreds of $$$ of music that I wouldnt try to force upon my offspring?
I'm done with them.
The only way I would buy from them again is if I heard what they are selling first. Usually by then, they are sold out.....so what's the use in even trying?
I actually feel for the guys that bought MFSL LP's that have quality issues brand new. They bought them as an investment and there is no way to test them out if they are going to invest in a resale when they are long OOP, because people buying want them still sealed.
Unless the sellers list the LP's for sale, "as is, no refunds on sealed music"? They are gonna be in a bad situation with an OOP LP with a defect.....that isn't worth the jacket it's put in.
Sorry, but I am no longer a fan of MFSL. They burned a bridge with me.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I’m not going to argue some of the titles are not the best but good luck finding Dire Straits pressings that are better. And the next one is going to be released soon.
I have 130+ MFSLs titles. UHQRs, one-steps, 45s, 33s, new and old. I only have a few that I regretted.
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Tell ya' what....
Let's start with this.
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
What's wrong with that one?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Well, the music may be great but the sound is horrid. It honestly makes me wonder why they even botherd with it to begin with.
1930's music has more dynamics played on a gramophone than this selection from MFSL. Sorry, but it is what it is.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
That appears to be live sets, and Alchemy is worth the purchase price alone, I got some Rhino rereleased stuff I'm happy with their releases.Home Theater
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Tell ya' what....
Let's start with this.
Tom
Not a Dire Straits. Pick a good one! Don’t bash them all.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Silver 4+ Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon and Hurricane Power Cables -
Let me know what you think of this. If you listen to it.
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My apologies for any confusion. Regarding MFSL? I was not referring to only Mark's music.
This was a general statement based upon my experience with music purchased from them, regardless of artist, album or genre as of late.
Tom.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Well, the music may be great but the sound is horrid. It honestly makes me wonder why they even botherd with it to begin with.
1930's music has more dynamics played on a gramophone than this selection from MFSL. Sorry, but it is what it is.
Tom
Sounds fine to me, but I have the older issue.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Jesse, that's kind of my point.
If you have an older issue and it sounds fine to you? Then I get my copy and it sounds like 3 blankets have been smothered over the recording at a higher cost than you probably paid?
Why bother?
I would love to listen to your favorite band but I have to be honest here. I have heard bootleg recordings of Bob Marley recorded in a small, wooden shack sound better than the MFSL release of the album I referred to above.
Like I said. Why bother?
If I am to pay a premium for the tunes? At least make it worth my time and hard earned cash. This album was a waste of both.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Tom have you listened to the MFSL Dire Straits? You keep dancing around but I have a feeling you have not and are letting published BS drive your bias.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Silver 4+ Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon and Hurricane Power Cables
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Not my favorite band, Tom.
I don't know why the earlier issue would sound different than the more recent one.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Okay, Jesse. I may have been incorrect with your favorite band. I do know you like the Mars Hotel, as you have mentioned it many times. The reason I bought this particular album was because of one of your posts, many, many moons ago. Don't ask me to find that post, as it was so long ago? I wouldn't even risk your life trying to find it....if it came down to it.
Todd, I do not read rags, magazines or anything else. Occasionally yes, but for the most part? (99.9% of the time?) I don't read, pay attention too or even buy into that kind of propaganda. To me? It's much like reading or watching the news cycle from the MSM. The last rag I read a part of, was when Trey brought me a copy of the rag my current amp was reviewed in. That was about 2 years ago??? I honestly don't even remember.
I will have to look at the latest DS albums I have purchased from MFSL. TBT, I have not listened to CD's in a while....as well as LP's. I have been concentrating on the streaming aspect of the rig. Now that I am completely done with that aspect, I can move back into vinyl and CD playback.
Tom
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Why completely done with streaming? I have just started that adventure and am curious.Yep, my name really is Bob.
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My apologies. Please allow me to clarify. I have invested a rather large sum of $$$ into my streaming rig and at this point, I am done working on that aspect. I feel any move I make at this point would be a lateral move that would be beyond my wallet's capacity to handle, so I am done concentrating on that aspect of the rig.
I am now going to concentrate investing more into the CD and vinyl portion of the rig. Well, that and a new room build for the rig itself. Streaming music is a wonderful addition for a source within a rig, no doubt about that. That's the reason I haven't been listening to many CD's or LP's as of late.
Compared to my streaming setup, my CDP is too noisy to really enjoy. Funny, never in a million years would I ever have thought I would say something like that but it is what it is. I'm still brewing on what direction I want to go when it comes to physical digital music but I do know that what I currently have isn't cutting it anymore.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Well seeming as I'm probably in the top 0.1% of listeners of Dire Straits on Spotify now, might as well ask for this for Christmas.
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@treitz3 I was looking thru my DS records yesterday and noticed I had a Rhino pressing of On Every Street. Only copy of that one I have. It will be coming out on Mofi soon.
So, I thought it would be a good idea to give it a spin. Not sure how many times I have listened to this but I would assume 4 or 5 times. Quality of packaging was very good, Surface noise was not terrible but it had way more than I prefer. Overall SQ was good but I was not drawn in as I am with the Mofi's I have. As I said this is the only version of this album I have so its not fair to compare this one to the DS Mofi's I have. I have On Every Street Mofi on pre-order I will provide more details when I get it.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Silver 4+ Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon and Hurricane Power Cables -
I’ve got a recent MFSL pressing of Brother in Arms. I have no issues with it whatsoever. Not as black as the one steps I own but still sounds better than the average record I buy.2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave
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Tom,
This little string has prompted a rare (very rare) response from me. Although I have been focused more recently on streaming through my Abbas DAC 2.1, I spent an evening with vinyl last week when my wife was out of town. The vinyl rig didn't bloom until about two hours in. However, at that time I remembered why I love a good vinyl session. One LP, both grooves, all the way into the dead wax. It made me re-focus on what should be my focus...that is, getting my 1000 plus vinyl set down to about 365 albums that I absolutely would enjoy at the rate on 1 album a day each day of the year. It makes no sense for me to have hundreds of albums that I may or may not ever listen to in the remaining years. I would love to find very good pressings of Rhino or whatever. Buy two and hold one for resale. So, any good recommendations would be much appreciated. Right now, I am looking for good pressings of Miles Davis' "In a Silent Way", "**** Brew" and "On the Corner". -
Interesting! The system edited the title of Davis' seminal fusion jazz album.
