So I went and did something stupid…
nooshinjohn
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I am taking a chance on an incredibly low price turntable from Japan. eBay assures me that buyer protection applies so there is no risk to me on the purchase, and if it does not come through, I will get a full refund. Good communication with the seller so far and I have been assured that this deal is on the up and up. I hope it all works out for the best, because this is a beast of a turntable.By the accounts I have read online, this is endgame stuff. We shall see how it plays out.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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Wow! Beautiful design. Linear tracking arm?
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Triangle art was not end game? Man I'm so out of the turn table stuff, I threw my TT away in 1989....
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Wow! Beautiful design. Linear tracking arm?
Yes… Air bearing platter and arm.Triangle art was not end game? Man I'm so out of the turn table stuff, I threw my TT away in 1989....
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It would have been but it was too exposed and therefore at great risk of being damaged by my kids….
This one will still fit well behind closed doors. If it shows up at all, this will be the last table I buy.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Rest assured, the Triangle Art is in good hands (and safe).
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Best of luck to you. Shipping turntables (especially internationally) can be risky, but if they have original packaging, it should be okay.
Coming from Japan, you might need a step-down transformer to get down to 100VAC/50Hz."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
Doing Drugs is stupid, I would say you're on the Linear/Right Track.
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Best of luck to you. Shipping turntables (especially internationally) can be risky, but if they have original packaging, it should be okay.
Coming from Japan, you might need a step-down transformer to get down to 100VAC/50Hz.
Not quite a relevant data point, but my son & I have had excellent experience buying vintage Nikkor lenses from Japan. Any well-established seller with ample experience shipping his/her/their wares worldwide is likely to be quite trustworthy.
Good point, re: the drive voltage/frequency. May or may not matter, depending on the drive requirements -- trust but verify.
That said, the cool kids use DIY or bespoke drive controllers to ensure the proper voltage and/or frequency for motors that care about such things (e.g., AC synchronous). EDIT: A little googlage shows it's a DC motor, so its power supply may be "agile" a la computer DC P/S bricks.
End game tt?
Fairchild 750 (2 or 3 speed).
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Let's just say I had a less-than-perfect experience getting a JVC turntable shipped to me from Japan. Luckily, it was 'only' a slight bit of plinth damage. To be honest, I've had a few worse experiences with turntables shipped within the states.mhardy6647 wrote: »Best of luck to you. Shipping turntables (especially internationally) can be risky, but if they have original packaging, it should be okay.
Coming from Japan, you might need a step-down transformer to get down to 100VAC/50Hz.
Not quite a relevant data point, but my son & I have had excellent experience buying vintage Nikkor lenses from Japan. Any well-established seller with ample experience shipping his/her/their wares worldwide is likely to be quite trustworthy.
Good point, re: the drive voltage/frequency. May or may not matter, depending on the drive requirements -- trust but verify.
That said, the cool kids use DIY or bespoke drive controllers to ensure the proper voltage and/or frequency for motors that care about such things (e.g., AC synchronous). EDIT: A little googlage shows it's a DC motor, so its power supply may be "agile" a la computer DC P/S bricks.
Regarding the step-down situ, you are undoubtedly right when it comes to the drive motor...DC, and thus more adaptable. BUT, did you happen to look at the air-pump power supply??? This is quite a fancy pants tt."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
And this saga comes to a close... The seller listed the full table for sale but it turns out, the listing was for the accessory kit only.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
If it sounds too good to be true..."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
Pretty cool, John. Curious to hear how you like it. Do you know which cart you're going to be using yet?
Post some specs!
You know that air compressor is gonna need a totl Shunyata PC, and the air tubing more rigid than stock to smooth the air flow, improve consistency, and reduce mushy bearing support.
What's that platter made of? It looks like cake. Is there anything special about it? Too lazy to do more reading after sleuthing the listing.
Looks like an interesting table for sure. And you've got @SCompRacer to rehab it for you, if it ever needs it. I heard Rich loves doing fee, I mean free, work on linear TTs.
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Dub-tee-eff.nooshinjohn wrote: »And this saga comes to a close... The seller listed the full table for sale but it turns out, the listing was for the accessory kit only.
Okay, I thought I saw others listed for $15k. Was I seeing things?
I checked his feedback. Not awful, but a handful mix of "alternate" product, delayed comms, and shipping delays.I disabled signatures. -
Dub-tee-eff.nooshinjohn wrote: »And this saga comes to a close... The seller listed the full table for sale but it turns out, the listing was for the accessory kit only.
Okay, I thought I saw others listed for $15k. Was I seeing things?
I checked his feedback. Not awful, but a handful mix of "alternate" product, delayed comms, and shipping delays.
Yeah... his listing was incredibly deceptive, and why I went into it expecting issues, but hoping for the best. It was not to be, and no wallets were harmed during this endeavor.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Even when its too good to be true, if it poses you zero risk, why not try it? I've made some pretty good Ebay scores that way.
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I presume this is the listing you purchased?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394913641604?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28
It clearly states turntable in the title and has multiple pictures of the turntable, how did you come to learn it was only the accessory kit? eBay is a weekend world and scammers are everywhere now2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave
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I thought it was this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235264344460
Clearly ripped the photos from the listing you linked, Zach.
His title says turntable, but in the description he only says the accessories are pictured. Additionally that the cartridge is not included. He doesn't say it's "accessories only", nor does he say "turntable not included" lol
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Yikes there is something seriously fishy going on there. Run away fast!2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave
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This is the correct listing. I just loved the way the table looked so I jumped on it. Never even knew the retail price was so high until I dove in. When I saw the retail numbers I got skeptical and reached out to EBay, and then asked the seller for clarification on what I was actually getting.I thought it was this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235264344460
Clearly ripped the photos from the listing you linked, Zach.
His title says turntable, but in the description he only says the accessories are pictured. Additionally that the cartridge is not included. He doesn't say it's "accessories only", nor does he say "turntable not included" lol
The seller stated accessories only and no turntable and he quickly refunded me.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
This had the potential to be like a Polkfarmboy shipping thread with some unusable junk showing up in a box in a few weeks. Glad it didn't work out!
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Yeah, same thing almost happened to me yesterday.
I was in a low signal area trying to buy a soccer team jacket on Ebay, but it kept failing to complete the PayPal fully, and wouldn't return to Ebay.
Good thing, too, because when I got home and was on the computer, I checked it out again. The listing title said Medium, but in the photos, the tag showed this:It's only Medium in Japan! Small everywhere else on the planet. Imagine how disappointed I'd have been when I Hulked it.
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What soccer team?
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
This is the correct listing. I just loved the way the table looked so I jumped on it. Never even knew the retail price was so high until I dove in. When I saw the retail numbers I got skeptical and reached out to EBay, and then asked the seller for clarification on what I was actually getting.I thought it was this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235264344460
Clearly ripped the photos from the listing you linked, Zach.
His title says turntable, but in the description he only says the accessories are pictured. Additionally that the cartridge is not included. He doesn't say it's "accessories only", nor does he say "turntable not included" lol
The seller stated accessories only and no turntable and he quickly refunded me.
Dang bet that’s disappointing either way. Should have kept that Triangle Art!
2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave
2 Channel Focal Kanta 3 I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Modwright PH9.0X I Modwright KWA-150SE I VPI Prime Signature w/ Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC I Lumin U2 Mini I North Star Designs Intenso DAC I Audience OHNO ICs/Audience Furutech FP-S55N and FP-S032N Power Cables/Acoustic Zen Satori I Isotek Sirius -
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Yeah, I didn't even think of the air supply.
Let's just say I had a less-than-perfect experience getting a JVC turntable shipped to me from Japan. Luckily, it was 'only' a slight bit of plinth damage. To be honest, I've had a few worse experiences with turntables shipped within the states.mhardy6647 wrote: »Best of luck to you. Shipping turntables (especially internationally) can be risky, but if they have original packaging, it should be okay.
Coming from Japan, you might need a step-down transformer to get down to 100VAC/50Hz.
Not quite a relevant data point, but my son & I have had excellent experience buying vintage Nikkor lenses from Japan. Any well-established seller with ample experience shipping his/her/their wares worldwide is likely to be quite trustworthy.
Good point, re: the drive voltage/frequency. May or may not matter, depending on the drive requirements -- trust but verify.
That said, the cool kids use DIY or bespoke drive controllers to ensure the proper voltage and/or frequency for motors that care about such things (e.g., AC synchronous). EDIT: A little googlage shows it's a DC motor, so its power supply may be "agile" a la computer DC P/S bricks.
Regarding the step-down situ, you are undoubtedly right when it comes to the drive motor...DC, and thus more adaptable. BUT, did you happen to look at the air-pump power supply??? This is quite a fancy pants tt.
Hmm... I wonder how Air Supply sounds on one of these tts?
https://youtu.be/JWdZEumNRmI
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With air bearing arms, records wonder if everyone knows it's....
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There's good in every bad thing.
John, just remember we all here on the blog know you are not stupid.
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