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Depends. What are you soldering?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Upgrading caps resistors on rti8s. New to this stuff and no experience
with doing this sort of work. Just trying to get as much info to lessen the chances of a screw up. I have some of your work and Vr3. Good stuff. -
I mean -- I like 60/40 Kester 44.
My father used it six decades ago, and I use it still.
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I've personally used several types over the years. If I had to pick just one it would be Cardas quad. Sometimes I wish the diameter was a bit bigger, only sometimes 😜
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I second Cardas Quad recommendation.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
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I third the Cardas Quad Eutectic.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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I use Chipquik 63/37 and it's never once let me down. Use leaded, it's simply better in every way.
Unless you eat it, then you'll get lead poisoning, but I don't think you'll be eating any. Right? -
Please vent your space and use a carbon filter fan at a minimum while eating the lead solder- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Agree with the above, you can get high lead levels from the fumes very easily as well.
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What about from the dull side of tin foil facing the food, @pitdogg2?I disabled signatures.
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Please vent your space and use a carbon filter fan at a minimum while eating the lead solder
Actually, I make a lead solder paste and smoke it out of a pipe.
You do need to ventilate though, but the solder fumes from leaded solder don't actually contain lead from the pretty extensive research I've done. They do contain other chemicals from the rosin core which will irritate your lungs pretty badly. -
What about from the dull side of tin foil facing the food, @pitdogg2?
That's the inlet side of the foil so you will be fine...Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
Please vent your space and use a carbon filter fan at a minimum while eating the lead solder
Actually, I make a lead solder paste and smoke it out of a pipe.
You do need to ventilate though, but the solder fumes from leaded solder don't actually contain lead from the pretty extensive research I've done. They do contain other chemicals from the rosin core which will irritate your lungs pretty badly.
DUDE! You have much to learn. IF that was the case then HOW do folks who use an indoor shooting range accumulate high lead levels?About 95% of all reported elevated blood lead levels in adults in the United States are work-related. Occupations that have the greatest risk include battery manufacturing, lead smelters, sandblasters, soldering, automobile repair, and construction workers.
Whatever you're using to research this is BROKEN
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Some idiot points a pistol in their direction and pulls the trigger.... IF that was the case then HOW do folks who use an indoor shooting range accumulate high lead levels?
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Please vent your space and use a carbon filter fan at a minimum while eating the lead solder
Actually, I make a lead solder paste and smoke it out of a pipe.
You do need to ventilate though, but the solder fumes from leaded solder don't actually contain lead from the pretty extensive research I've done. They do contain other chemicals from the rosin core which will irritate your lungs pretty badly.
DUDE! You have much to learn. IF that was the case then HOW do folks who use an indoor shooting range accumulate high lead levels?About 95% of all reported elevated blood lead levels in adults in the United States are work-related. Occupations that have the greatest risk include battery manufacturing, lead smelters, sandblasters, soldering, automobile repair, and construction workers.
Whatever you're using to research this is BROKEN
I genuinely have no clue how people who use an indoor shooting range acquire high lead levels but to my knowledge:
The boiling point of lead is 1749°C, 63/37 melts at 183°C
The solder doesn't emit lead dust when being melted
The smoke and fumes from soldering are produced by the flux and rosin core
I cannot find the source you used and the only other source I can find which says leaded solder will put lead in your body is from the UK and that's one site. Every other site is saying that the lead itself isn't inhalable.
Obviously one should still use a fume extractor as it's very important to protect your lungs from the rosin and flux anyways. -
I genuinely have no clue how people who use an indoor shooting range acquire high lead levels but to my knowledge:
Lead is vaporized at the base of the bullet from the ignition of the gun powder. In that smoke from the flux and rosin you had better believe there is also vaporized heavy metals.
Well, Well yes but that is the "hardcore" way LMAO !! -
I genuinely have no clue how people who use an indoor shooting range acquire high lead levels but to my knowledge:
Lead is vaporized at the base of the bullet from the ignition of the gun powder. In that smoke from the flux and rosin you had better believe there is also vaporized heavy metals.
Well, Well yes but that is the "hardcore" way LMAO !!
That's a fair point. I will note the lead is vaporized because the explosion that is projecting the bullet is reaching thousands of degrees Celsius. The soldering iron is only ~230°C for 63/37.
Mind you, treating the fumes as if they contain lead is a good idea, but don't panic and get a blood test done if you've inhaled them.
I've inhaled my fair share and I can confirm my brain is fine... ehh maybe not but the fumes didn't cause it. -
I work in construction and in general most men say they don't need a mask for anything or to vent anything... Manly pride? Testosterone? I dunno.
One of the guys I had worked with for several years died after a lung related issue... He was maybe 50
All I am saying is... Things we do today may not show up for 50 years... Best to just realize we are walking plants and take care of yourself ebst you can... Or not! 😜- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I work in construction and in general most men say they don't need a mask for anything or to vent anything... Manly pride? Testosterone? I dunno.
One of the guys I had worked with for several years died after a lung related issue... He was maybe 50
All I am saying is... Things we do today may not show up for 50 years... Best to just realize we are walking plants and take care of yourself ebst you can... Or not! 😜
Some people just don't wear protection... apparently it's cool!
Like bronchiolitis obliterans must be sick bro! I wish I could inhale as much asbestos, fiberglass, and other industrial chemicals.
My friends (who are around my age mind you) think it's funny that I wear hearing protection when using lawn equipment.
Guess who has hearing loss at the age of 17? Protective gear is so cheap, why on earth would you choose to save $20 over your own safety and protection. -
Not to mention listening to earbuds/headphones too loud, listening too loud in the car, standing too close to the stage at concerts, etc. I pretty much quit going to concerts, but if I do, I wear ear plugs. I know...I'm a wuss, but my hearing is more important than seeing so-and-so perform. I'd rather be comfortable at home, and listen to my systemMy friends (who are around my age mind you) think it's funny that I wear hearing protection when using lawn equipment.
Guess who has hearing loss at the age of 17? Protective gear is so cheap, why on earth would you choose to save $20 over your own safety and protection. "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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Not to mention listening to earbuds/headphones too loud, listening too loud in the car, standing too close to the stage at concerts, etc. I pretty much quit going to concerts, but if I do, I wear ear plugs. I know...I'm a wuss, but my hearing is more important than seeing so-and-so perform. I'd rather be comfortable at home, and listen to my systemMy friends (who are around my age mind you) think it's funny that I wear hearing protection when using lawn equipment.
Guess who has hearing loss at the age of 17? Protective gear is so cheap, why on earth would you choose to save $20 over your own safety and protection.
Bingo. I went to one concert and got so close to the speakers. I remember hearing literal cracking in my ears because of the sheer volume of people screaming. FORTUNATELY my hearing somehow recovered after a day but I literally have earplugs for concerts now.
My friends are okay with me asking them to put the music down in the car though. I have really sensitive hearing so loud sounds can get uncomfortable.
Sometimes, just sometimes, I'll crank my RT3000p to max for a song or two. It's 90-95 dB so I can do that every day for a week if I wanted, but I generally don't. -
Ir’ve Ben soldering for yets und too daye hav had know illlllllll slide efforts.
Bullets leaving a banger after a rather hot explosion- sure. More damage from breathing the fumes from the powder being burned during that process. That’s why good indoor ranges have mandated fume extraction systems.
You would be instructed to wash your hands thoroughly with soap and cold water (so pores stay closed) after handling those items.
Damage from solder fumes - yes. I’ve experienced that in the form of headaches but it’s from the rosin core.
As mentioned above you can’t possibly get your soldering iron hot enough to vaporize any combination of the metals in solder. Maybe from just handling it?Aaron
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It's something I've contemplated. There's evaporation and then there is boiling. Molecules of a liquid can evaporate and escape the body of the liquid well below the boiling point. We know that the higher the temperature, the higher the evaporation. Could become more of an issue the more potentially toxic the liquid molecule is. One mitigating factor might be the molecular weight of liquid metals vs something like water however, and the fact that they are most definitely heavier than air. I think to look into this you'd need to look at "vapor pressure" to get an idea of how low the volatility of molten lead and tin is, compared to something like alcohol or water.
Temp. in C for 1 Pa of vapor pressure:
Lead 705
Silver 1010
Tin 1234
Copper 1236
The amounts are miniscule compared to something like water where the vapor pressure at 30 C is something like 4.2kPaPost edited by Gardenstater onGeorge / NJ
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More, hopefully eye opening
information about the vapor pressure of lead vs. temperature. Even if you were to set your soldering iron to a pretty high setting of, say, 800F = 427C = 700K the vapor pressure would only be around 5.38 x 10^-7 mm of Hg = 7.17 x 10^-5 Pa ! That's like 14,000 x less than the example above at higher temp.
But when PPM of lead over time in the air you breathe can do you harm, who knows what is "safe"?
Everyone have a non nerdy Thanksgiving lol.
George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
The worst part of welding and soldering is the fumes, soldering can be worse at times getting small streams of smoke in the face once in awhile, and for some reason you think you placed your face in the right spot, and you get hit in the face anyways, like it is personally attacking you.. LOL..
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The smoke is mostly from the rosin.
