Subwoofer ?'s

dkg999
dkg999 Posts: 5,647
I am currently running a PSW404 in the front left corner and a PSW303 in the rear right corner, and am fairly happy with the performance. I don't run at high volumes because I am in an apt. What I am looking to do is up the low frequency presence and improve the bottom trolling ability of my sub-woofers. I was considering the PSW505 to replace the PSW404, but the salesperson tells me that the difference between the 12" and 8" woofers will impact the timing of the low frequency response and not sound good. Any truth to this?

I really wanted to go with the SVS sub-woofers, but my concern there is that the bottom firing design will send too much bass into the floor and cause problems with the downstairs neighbors. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance for the help!
DKG999
HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited June 2004
    Maybe try stacking the 303 on top of the 404 to increase the low frequency presence... Not really sure how your room changes the bass (shape and objects in room make differences). I'm not sure about the timing of a 12 compared to 8 but as for the svs you can always isolate the subwoofer by putting it on something like a block of granite (or a less expensive material) which will reduce the bass that goes into the floor.
  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited June 2004
    yea, putting granite, or the much less expensive concrete slab under your sub will isolate it from the floor and minimize vibrations being sent to the neighbors, an svs will murder your two subs tho. if you can get an svs, id say get one
  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited June 2004
    but the salesperson tells me that the difference between the 12" and 8" woofers will impact the timing of the low frequency response and not sound good. Any truth to this?

    It's not a matter of timing, per se. The two subs will have different frequency responses, and combining them will probably not result in an optimal looking FR.
    but my concern there is that the bottom firing design will send too much bass into the floor and cause problems with the downstairs neighbors. Any thoughts on this?

    Bass is omni-directional and is generally an equal opportunity lease breaker.

    Since a down-firing woofer will concentrate its reactive forces in the vertical plane, it might cause more floor vibration than a side firing woofer. But I doubt the difference will be huge. The downstairs neighbors will still hear/feel booming regardless.

    I like the thick concrete paver under the sub to decouple it from the floor.
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    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited June 2004
    For my current subs, they set on 18" square patio blocks turned upside down so the flat back is the surface the sub sets on. Glue the patio block to 1/2" acoustic tile and a 3/4" plywood substrate. Mount small wood feet to the bottom, using a piece of old mouse pad between the wood foot and the substrate. Use some oak to trim the sides of the whole works, stain and finish to match your decor. This has pretty much eliminated floor rumble from the subs. I do own a brick saw, so I can cut the patio blocks to make whatever dimension I need, but you should be able to find a combination of ones at the local big-box store that work.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC