Fake Tubes?

Toolfan66
Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
edited July 2023 in Electronics
Is it just me or do these tubes look fake? Never seen BB’s with a logo looking like this. Or was this a USA version?

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Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

SVS SB16 X2

Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
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Cary DMS 800PV Network
OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
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    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,138
    I wonder if they blow as soon as they warm up. :#
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,655
    I like how he's seemingly kind of CYA in the description...maybe "reissued". I've not seen that logo before. I'm not saying they're fake, I've not seen that. I have some 12ax7 BB's it's definitely trumpet like. I've also seen the disc getters, I've not seen that structure before. Truth be told I have nothing that uses that tube so I've not researched them.
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  • invalid
    invalid Posts: 1,377
    edited July 2023
    I believe Richardson electronics bought amperex and relabeled a lot of tubes. They also bought cetron, I have some cetron 3b22 rectifiers that came in Richardson electronics boxes.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    Bugle Boy was an American marketing tool. I don't use 6922 tubes which were introduced after the 12A*7 signal tubes. Only the very early 6922's had the Bugle Boy logo.

    Since I am not familiar with the 6922, I can't say. Anytime you see a tube that has pristine graphics but it's supposed to be old, be suspicious.

    In it's day it may have been a BB 6922 and re-labeling, while suspicious, may just be what it is...re-labeling of a long worn label.

    Unless you're 100% sure, just move on to the next pair.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    I don't see the cross hatch on top of the tube. It appears on the photo's the bottom of the tube is tapered or "pinched". I don't see any etched codes in the pictures. This is in comparison to the older 1959 versions. Perhaps later versions had a slightly different build.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,624
    edited July 2023
    Oddly, I saw the title as "Fake B 00 BS"

    Disappointed ☹️
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    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)

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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,221
    Yeah. Sometimes fake tubes are okay, and other times they exhibit strange performance characteristics.
    I disabled signatures.
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  • Keiko
    Keiko Posts: 764
    It it's too good to be true. . . You know the rest.
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