Need speaker placement advice for 6.1-7.1?

EricH
EricH Posts: 140
edited June 2004 in Speakers
I need help on what speakers to buy and how to place. Room being extended to 23' x 19'. Due to doorways, fireplace, windows, etc. here are my options:

HK AVR 630 receiver
RTi70 mains
CSi40 center
Velo CHT-15 sub

Rti38's (already have) on back wall for side surrounds with CSi40 rear center (6.1)

3 Csi30's on back wall for side surrounds and rear center (6.1)

2 CSi30 for surrounds mounted within 1'' of ceiling on side walls, tilted down slightly. 2 Rti38's on back wall for rear surrounds.

I like the last option, but was wondering about the close placement to the ceiling. Any and all help appreciated. Thanks to jdhdiggs for his $.02.
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  • gatemplin
    gatemplin Posts: 1,595
    edited June 2004
    Welcome to Club Polk,
    My two cents, use the RTi38s and a CSi40 for surrounds and put them up high, 6-7' off the ground.
    Graham
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Could you use PowerPoint, MS paint, or anything to give a layout of the room? Where the windows and doors are and where you plan to place the TV?

    That would help a ton.

    As for me, if you got the last E-mail, you know I'd recommenend using 50's instead of the 38's to get the image back a bit more to the sides, assuming that there aren't huge holes in your room beyond the windows. Then using the 38's on their sides, angled down... ;)


    Everyone: Just to come clean, he wanted to get my FXi50's but I recommended he make sure his application is correct before purchasing (hence the thread). You aren't limited to the speakers he listed (within reason), just try not to waste any of them... :p
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited June 2004
    Big, almost square room 23' x 19'

    South wall: Windows all the way across. 7" or 8" border above windows.

    West wall: Nothing on it, front channels.

    North wall: Entrance into kitchen in NW corner, entrance into hallway in NE corner, fireplace in center of wall.

    East wall: Nothing on it, rear channels.

    The south wall is the issue. Can't have a speaker hanging down in front of the windows.
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2004
    I'd do the 30's on the side walls, just about even with the listening position, no need to tilt. Place the 38's on their side w/ tweeters facing in, tilted down, seperated around 6 '...

    Just my .02.
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Ok, here's the setup I proposed, look about right for your room?
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by amulford
    I'd do the 30's on the side walls, just about even with the listening position, no need to tilt. Place the 38's on their side w/ tweeters facing in, tilted down, seperated around 6 '...

    Just my .02.

    South side has no room..., although stands might be an option?!?
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited June 2004
    Thanks folks. Amulford's would be the cleanest set-up, but I had heard not to place speakers so close to the ceiling. That was where the downward tilt came from.
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Curious?

    Do you have the 30's?
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by jdhdiggs
    Ok, here's the setup I proposed, look about right for your room?

    Yes, that is the room layout. That would work. Here's the question:

    Two FXi50 dipole/bipoles side surrounds on the back wall and two RTi38 rear surrounds

    Two CSi30 sides up by the ceiling pointed down slightly?, and two Rti38 rear surrounds.



    They're shutting us down for the day here. Will check back tomorrow. Thanks for the help guys. Eric H.
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by jdhdiggs
    Curious?

    Do you have the 30's?

    No. Got some?
  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited June 2004
    put the fx surrounds on the side walls and the direct speakers in the back, be it i30 center channels or i38 bookshelves.
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by EricH
    No. Got some?

    Nope, sorry, only got the 40 and 50 left... Is the pick close to your setup of the room?
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2004
    but I had heard not to place speakers so close to the ceiling. That was where the downward tilt came from.

    That's to save from coloration due to reflection. you could put a small sound treatment up to take care of that.
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited June 2004
    Originally posted by amulford
    That's to save from coloration due to reflection. you could put a small sound treatment up to take care of that.

    Thanks. I'm a newbie, could you give me a couple places to learn and look at sound treatments?
  • EricH
    EricH Posts: 140
    edited June 2004
    Thanks for the opinions. I think I'm going to use two center channels on the sides, and just use my RTi38's in the back. I believe the FXi's would sound better, but I've got too many speakers laying around as is. Jdhdiggs, I appreciate your help on this, and hope that you sell your FXi's. James told me to not to rush, and think this out. He lost a sale helping me out. Stand up guy.
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2004
    Just do a search, you'll get all kinds of info & ideas. BTW, there's a set of FXi30's for sale over in the Flea market.
  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2004
    Some 50's as well... ;)
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin