Help choosing upgrades for Def Tech 2002 crossover
EndersShadow
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Looking to see if I can eek a bit more out of my BP 2002 without spending a ton. I have like 78 bucks into them as of now and they are working just fine, however I'm hoping for a couple bucks I can replace the existing crossover parts with something better.
Not looking to go nuts but honestly not sure what these parts should cost. Below is a table with all the parts as well as pictures of the crossover.
Note: due to glue on the part I'm 100% positive I have a 6.8, just not sure if its uF or something else (yes I'm very much a crossover virgin here)
Not looking to go nuts but honestly not sure what these parts should cost. Below is a table with all the parts as well as pictures of the crossover.
Note: due to glue on the part I'm 100% positive I have a 6.8, just not sure if its uF or something else (yes I'm very much a crossover virgin here)
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Clarity cap px and Jantzen superes resistors, should be under a hundred in parts and be a dramatic improvement- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Clarity cap px and Jantzen superes resistors, should be under a hundred in parts and be a dramatic improvement
Be gentle but which ones are the resistors… The white ones?"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
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@VR3 - can you point me to some vendors?"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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Parts connexion
Madisound
Hifi collective- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Thanks @VR3
I put together the list below from what I could find. I was not able to find either a 200uf or a 8uf in the Clarity Caps PX models at any of those vendors.
Resistors: ~25 bucks for both crossovers (including shipping) from PartsConnexion- Ὠ5W1R5 (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48662.html
- Ὠ5WR2R (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48666.html
- Ὠ10WR82 (3.88 x 2) : https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48715.html
- 5W18Ὠ (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48685.html
Caps: Total unknown because I can't find 2 values. Total thus far (not including shipping) is 86.58- 22uF (13.96 x 4): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/22uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 15uF (9.70 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/15uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 6.8uF 5.67 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/6-8uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 200uF: ??
- 8uF: ??
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
I would just use an 8.2ufand 2 x 100uf mundorf electrolytic bypassed by the px .47uf- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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So then it looks like this is the full parts list:
Resistors: 24.75 bucks for both crossovers (including shipping) from PartsConnexion- Ὠ5W1R5 (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48662.html
- Ὠ5WR2R (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48666.html
- Ὠ10WR82 (3.88 x 2) : https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48715.html
- 5W18Ὠ (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48685.html
Caps: 197.55 bucks for both crossovers (including shipping) from HiFi Connection- 22uF (13.96 x 4): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/22uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 15uF (9.70 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/15uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 6.8uF 5.67 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/6-8uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 200uF - part 1 of 2 (17.74 x 4): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/mlal4502040-100uf100uf-450v-mlytic-axial-lead-type-p-2672.html
- 200uF - part 2 of 2 (2.71 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/0-47uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 8uF (5.72 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/8-2uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
Grand total is 220.48 or 110.24 for each crossover. That would bring the entire investment cost up to ~300 bucks for both speakers."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Do these for the 100
https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/ecap100110-100uf-100vdc-mundorf-ecap-electrolytic-p-4007.html- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Thanks Trey. That is a HUGE different in price lol (all 4 of those for the cost of just ONE of the others).
Updated list
Resistors: 24.75 bucks for both crossovers (including shipping) from PartsConnexion- Ὠ5W1R5 (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48662.html
- Ὠ5WR2R (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48666.html
- Ὠ10WR82 (3.88 x 2) : https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48715.html
- 5W18Ὠ (1.25 x 2): https://www.partsconnexion.com/product48685.html
- 22uF (13.96 x 4): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/22uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 15uF (9.70 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/15uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 6.8uF 5.67 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/6-8uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 200uF - part 1 of 2 (4.45 x 4): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/ecap100110-100uf-100vdc-mundorf-ecap-electrolytic-p-4007.html
- 200uF - part 2 of 2 (2.71 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/0-47uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
- 8uF (5.72 x 2): https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/8-2uf-250v-claritycap-px-range-polypropylene.html
Grand total is 169.54 or 84.77 for each crossover, which would make my total my investment cost ~250 which I think is still a pretty darn good deal for them."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Yep!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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My only concern (still being the cheapskate that I am)..... do I:
- Upgrade these (when I may be selling them and may not get as high a profit margin on them with upgrades v without)
- Wait till I find whatever replaces these (which could be a different vintage Def Tech) and upgrade those....
- Upgrade these for now, sell them for what I can, then upgrade whatever might replace them if needed
I will prob go with option 3..... Either way I gotta wait a bit to order the parts on these, so I have some time to think..."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
The 2002tl is a pretty good speaker, to be all in 250 is pretty low risk- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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The 2002tl is a pretty good speaker, to be all in 250 is pretty low risk
Remember, these are not the TL's.... just the 2002's (so only 1 woofer and tweeter in the rear)"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Ah, eh still not a bad all in cost. I don't think you would lose any money selling as long as the mods turn out good- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Ah, eh still not a bad all in cost. I don't think you would lose any money selling as long as the mods turn out good
Yeah you are prob right lol"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
