Koetsu stone cartridges
Joey_V
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Has anyone here auditioned or heard or considered or dreamed of a Koetsu stone cart?
I dream of something like the Koetsu Jade.
I dream of something like the Koetsu Jade.
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Yeah you should get one.
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Better yet, get one of each.
Logic says to me that stone does not make for a good cart body. Being a natural material each piece of stone used will have a different structure. Not what one wants, IMO.Political Correctness'.........defined
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But will Joey be able to accurately identify those variations while listening to his audiophile Top 40 record collection, or in a double blind listening test? And correctly identify which stone body is in use 9/10 times, or with an equivalent reasonable degree of accuracy?
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txcoastal1 wrote: »Jade = Good luck
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But will Joey be able to accurately identify those variations while listening to his audiophile Top 40 record collection, or in a double blind listening test? And correctly identify which stone body is in use 9/10 times, or with an equivalent reasonable degree of accuracy?
… probably not.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Your stylus is a stone per se. Isn't that good enough?Gustard X26 Pro DAC
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Didn't you just say in another post that you have hit the point of diminishing returns?
LOL.
You have a sickness. I feel your pain.
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Didn't you just say in another post that you have hit the point of diminishing returns?
LOL.
You have a sickness. I feel your pain.
Tom
Hey Tom
Yeah, I was wondering about an anti-Lyra.
Might be cool to also take some wear off the Etna.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Eh, if you have the ability to have some spares or different "flavors" of carts? Go for it!
I have known of people to have a plethora of IC's, simply hanging in a closet for a different sound. I don't mean 3 or 4 cables. I'm talking about more than 100 upper to esoteric cables "properly" hung up, labeled and ready to install into his rig...
Just for a different flavor or for changes he made to his system. To do the same for carts? I wouldn't think that would be to much off the mark.
We may not be on the same level of gear but the sickness is the same, without a doubt.
I'll look into what Joshua at JMW currently uses in his vinyl setup. He rarely speaks of carts but he certainly likes the one he is currently using. Heck, I loved the one he was using, TBT.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
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Eh, if you have the ability to have some spares or different "flavors" of carts? Go for it!
I have known of people to have a plethora of IC's, simply hanging in a closet for a different sound. I don't mean 3 or 4 cables. I'm talking about more than 100 upper to esoteric cables "properly" hung up, labeled and ready to install into his rig...
Just for a different flavor or for changes he made to his system. To do the same for carts? I wouldn't think that would be to much off the mark.
We may not be on the same level of gear but the sickness is the same, without a doubt.
I'll look into what Joshua at JMW currently uses in his vinyl setup. He rarely speaks of carts but he certainly likes the one he is currently using. Heck, I loved the one he was using, TBT.
Tom
It would be on the second arm so it’s not any trouble to reinstall the carts.
The avenger can handle 3 arms… 2 arms with ease.
On the flip side, seeing as carts are consumable goods, would be nice to reduce wear for sure on the Etna. No sense in getting a cart too similar to the Lyra Etna, so I figured either a mono cart or if a stereo cart, then go with a Koetsu stone.
With mono, I’m limited in software.
With another stereo, I’m maxed out at software choice.
That’s kinda where I’m at with my thinking.
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Synergy and satisfaction, Joey. You know the drill. Keep going til you get there. You might not even realize you're there at first. For me it was the realization that I'd stopped chasing (integrateds, specifically, was my first experience with satisfsction)I disabled signatures.
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Has anyone here auditioned or heard or considered or dreamed of a Koetsu stone cart?
My dentist is a serious audio guy and he has confessed Jade lust to me. He was working out how to get the wife on board....lol He has some serious optical gear in the office for checking a stylus out too!Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
SCompRacer wrote: »Has anyone here auditioned or heard or considered or dreamed of a Koetsu stone cart?
My dentist is a serious audio guy and he has confessed Jade lust to me. He was working out how to get the wife on board....lol He has some serious optical gear in the office for checking a stylus out too!
That’s awesome bro
Too bad I’m the only one in my practice
No one else understands my audio hobby. But they have no problem understanding the Mclaren or F-car purchase. I drive a certified used Lexus RX Fsport. Nothing fancy but it’s comfortable and reliable.
But I indulge in the one hobby that keeps me sane.
No one in my circle understands me, they think I’m a lunatic. That’s why I have my Dallas Audiophile Club.
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I took it out of the closet
The fatboy seems alone. Either it gets sold to this guy who wants it… or I keep it and attach a Koetsu to it.
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No one else understands my audio hobby. <snip> But I indulge in the one hobby that keeps me sane.
No one in my circle understands me, they think I’m a lunatic.
Let them think what they will. They have their hobbies? We have ours.
After a day's hard work, what is more relaxing, rewarding, fulfilling, sublime or otherwise BLISS than listening to music?
Besides the "obvious"?
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Smoking a bowl/joint and THEN listening to music?
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Smoking a bowl/joint and THEN listening to music?
Dude
That would be next level I betMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
That’s awesome bro
Too bad I’m the only one in my practice
That's sad! The receptionist allows for extra time with my appointment so we can talk audio. I needed a crown after breaking a tooth. (I fell, had a severe case of vertigo). He talks, I remember everything and respond when he is finished working.
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SCompRacer wrote: »
That’s awesome bro
Too bad I’m the only one in my practice
That's sad! The receptionist allows for extra time with my appointment so we can talk audio. I needed a crown after breaking a tooth. (I fell, had a severe case of vertigo). He talks, I remember everything and respond when he is finished working.
That’s awesome man
I need to find a dentist like that
Then I would definitely go annually
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