Worth restating.
SeleniumFalcon
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100%, been saying it for years, it's all about the current.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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So.........I'm wondering how much current is considered adequate and is it all created equally? Is tube current the same as ss current?
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"I'm wondering how much current is considered adequate "
An example might help. Current (amperes) is equal to the square root of the power (watts) divided by the impedance (ohms). So, if we look at producing 350 watts into an 8 ohm speaker that would be the square root of 350/8 which would be 6.6 amperes times 2 (for stereo) which would be 13.2 amperes. This would be for an RMS measurement the peak requirement would be 18.7 amperes (Peak Current = RMS Current x 1.414). So with a power of 350 watts into an 8 ohm impedance the peak stereo demand would be 19 or 20 amperes. -
That's the thing about discussions concerning Amperes -- they're always current.
If loudspeaker designers hadn't all gone sadistic back ca. the late 1970s and given us loudspeakers with ridiculously low impedance dips and outrageous phase angles -- current would be less of a thing to worry about.
now, if you'll excuse me, those darned hooligan kids are out on my lawn -- again!
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I'm glad I put 14 gauge wire and 20 amp rated outlets in my cottage.
Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
SDA SRS 2.3TL's
Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
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I'm glad I put 14 gauge wire and 20 amp rated outlets in my cottage.
So now your wire is the fuse....should you plug a 20amp something into it.
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Anything less than 200 Amps is not enough😅- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Anything less than 200 Amps is not enough😅
"how much current does a mcintosh mc1201 have?"
200 Amperes
McIntosh MC1201 Amplifiers DESCRIPTION 1200 Watt Mono Power Amplifier Double Balanced, Push/Pull Design Full Power into 2, 4, or 8 ohms 200 Amperes of Output Current
Wow I cut it pretty close there.
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Maybe I used 12 gauge.
I'll get back to you guys sometime in the future.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
.......and the 1st watt is the most important
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
.......and the 1st watt is the most important
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... or the first 100 milliwatts for those of us with 104-ish dB/watt @ 1 meter loudspeakers.
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You can't use 20 amp outlets with 14 gauge wire. It has to be a minimum of 12 gauge, 10 gauge is even better.I'm glad I put 14 gauge wire and 20 amp rated outlets in my cottage.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Yeah, 14-gauge wire is for lighting circuits. It's only real value is being able to have an acceptable number of conductors in a switch box to follow code.
Receptacles should have 20-amp breakers and 12-gauge wire. For a dedicated power amp circuit, I would recommend 30-amp breakers and 10-gauge wire. -
I absolutely agree, but be aware that will not pass code, so have a 20 amp breaker stored away for the day you sell your house.I would recommend 30-amp breakers and 10-gauge wire.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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I have three 20 amp lines with 10 gauge wires. Two of the lines are for the amps (one line for each amp), and the third is for the other gear. Before I put each amp on its own line I kept popping the breaker on the circuit for the amps. After adding another line so that each amp had its own line I no longer popped any breakers. However, I did break both speakers one night, but the amps kept on working.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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What was the cost of the fix for the Magicos?
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I have forgotten the cost of the drivers. Probably a few hundred dollars for each one.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
