Ruined my speakers trying to identify.

SuburbanDad
SuburbanDad Posts: 5
edited February 2022 in Speakers
I thought the screen was just stubborn. Turns out it doesn't come off! LOL. These will end up in the trash now. But can anyone help identify just out of curiosity? Bought in the 90s. Dimensions are 19hx10wx12d zabcsqk2xx0o.jpg
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,922
    Give us a hint, show the back of the speaker....
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  • SuburbanDad
    SuburbanDad Posts: 5
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,566
    The components might be labeled.

    Take the back off. Show what's in there too. That woofer looks good.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,450
    Are these built in from the rear?
    I see some holes around the woofer, but no others on that front baffle.

    If they're worth it to you, you could probably just buy some grill cloth and use some spray adhesive to tack it back down, paying attention to the edges. Then trim it with a sharp X-acto or utility knife once cured. Might need some chem or sanding to smooth the existing surface, first.

    Be sure to shield the drivers and speaker body when spraying the adhesive if you're unable to remove everything from behind. Might be a roll-on adhesive variant you could use, as well.

    Lesson I learned the hard way long ago working on cars - if something's not coming apart, there's usually a hidden fastener. Still have to remind myself of that one sometimes.
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  • GSXR1
    GSXR1 Posts: 3
    Hardly for the trash. Looks like a project now
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,913
    @SuburbanDad -- you didn't ruin them in any way but cosmetically, so it could be (far, far) worse!

    They look very plain (to the point of being generic/store brand or DIYs), but the drivers don't look hypercheap, and someone went to the trouble to rout or otherwise carve out a "waveguide" around the tweeter dome.

    Given that the back is screwed on -- were they mine, I'd try (!) to take the back off and get a look at the drivers and see what the crossover is like. Maybe just a capacitor on the tweeter, but maybe a little more serious. Well worth finding out.

    Of course, based on the project so far, the backs will probably turned out to be glued and screwed. :)

    Keep us posted if you do successfully get a look inside 'em!
    _________

    PS The drivers probably aren't US made and/or old enough to have EIA manufacturer's codes stamped on their baskets, but if they do, an EIA code directory could be very helpful.
    Here's a pretty comprehensive one: https://www.ecianow.org/assets/docs/EIAStandards/1.7.4_EIAcodes1961.pdf
    and here's a very comprehensive compilation:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P1jeVIQ9UdwlhXTDLQEDxYuShjFQZO_4tUchw5_8N9o/edit#gid=174447209
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  • SuburbanDad
    SuburbanDad Posts: 5
    The backs ARE screwed and glued. Really the only reason I started messing with these was to try and determine which speakers they were and then put them up on craigslist! Now I will put them on the curb and post a curb alert or they will get picked up on bulk trash day. I know, I hate throwing away stuff, but I simply don't use them.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    I'm gonna guess. Paradigms
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,913
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I'm gonna guess. Paradigms

    hmm...

    Don't know if there were any that were sealed-for-life, though.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Randy's on it now :p
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
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    Randy-Maine
    2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Close but no cigar. Paradigm Atoms. I think I've seen some with binders like that on cabinets like Paradigms - someone must have changed the binders over.
    Randy-Maine
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  • SuburbanDad
    SuburbanDad Posts: 5
    edited February 2022
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I'm gonna guess. Paradigms

    Holy cow Randy, I think you're right. Having lost the badges awhile ago, the P-name I thought was POLK. But I believe they are Paradigm Phantom V1s!
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,566
    If you're going to trash them or curbside them, where do you live? What City that is.

    Maybe somebody would love to pick those up for free and bust those speakers and crossover out and put them into other cabinets.

    Paradigm speakers is my guess also.

    How do they sound?

    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

    “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
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  • SuburbanDad
    SuburbanDad Posts: 5
    Tony M wrote: »
    If you're going to trash them or curbside them, where do you live? What City that is.

    Maybe somebody would love to pick those up for free and bust those speakers and crossover out and put them into other cabinets.

    Paradigm speakers is my guess also.

    How do they sound?

    They sound great. Verona, NJ
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    edited February 2022
    I had the Phantom V2's & I think those had binders like those. Great speakers
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,922
    HMMM different screws and more screws in the OP's picture, port larger and further from cup....

    try again
    :smiley:
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    Come on Ivan we were doing so good. Those are the "improved version" . More screws & larger port :D
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I'm gonna guess. Paradigms

    hmm...

    Don't know if there were any that were sealed-for-life, though.

    Gasket & Age = Pry Bar
    Randy-Maine
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,866
    SuburbanDad wrote: »
    The backs ARE screwed and glued.

    Nothing a circular saw and a BFH can't fix!
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,620
    edited February 2022
    Paradigm Phantom V1. A pair is on Ebay for $150 and another for $250...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/254192292257?hash=item3b2f0a91a1:g:IcgAAOSwll1W0ah0

    An option if they won't unscrew from the back is to cut them open and retrieve the drivers. Someone may want them.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,668
    I suggest C4
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,922
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Paradigm Phantom V1. A pair is on Ebay for $150 and another for $250...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/254192292257?hash=item3b2f0a91a1:g:IcgAAOSwll1W0ah0

    An option if they won't unscrew from the back is to cut them open and retrieve the drivers. Someone may want them.

    That looks legit Randy and Emlyn are correct. :D
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,913
    edited February 2022
    boston1450 wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I'm gonna guess. Paradigms

    hmm...

    Don't know if there were any that were sealed-for-life, though.

    Gasket & Age = Pry Bar

    Definitely possible (i.e., BTDT)!
    usually start out a little more subtly ... a dental pick or small, flat-blade screwdriver, FWIW. ;)


    Well done gentlemen, in terms of the ID! Probably a pretty decent sounding pair of loudspeakers.
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