Old Polk vs new Polk

Nabman
Nabman Posts: 33
edited December 2021 in Speakers
Hi. Curious to know how new Polks compare to old Polks. Anyone had the chance to compare the Reserve R200 to say Monitor 5 II (imaging, stage, clarity of mids, controlled lows, unfatiguing highs, etc.)? Bill
Monitor 5 Series II
RTA 11T

Answers

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,894
    edited December 2021
    (Speaking only for myself)
    Not yet. :#
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,387
    Comparing my RTA-11TL to the LSi15, I have to say that they are just different presentations and neither is necessarily wrong. The LSi has wonderful imaging and I love the mids-highs. They are probably more accurate. My moded RTA's also image very well and are very cohesive. I love the bass. In some ways I enjoy then more than the LSi. When I got the LSi's I thought I'd get rid of the RTA's but I still like them too much.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,014
    edited December 2021
    I have Monitor 5 Peerless and R200’s so I could compare them but haven’t yet. My general sense from having pretty much all the bookies at one point or another including currently having the L200’s, LSiM 703’s, LSi-9’s and several of the RT and RTi’s is that the R200’s (and L200) represent a progression of Polk’s institutional memory and engineering knowledge. (The R200 is obviously an effort to economize the L200 but they still share many attributes.) I can tell you the R200’s are really nice and I think most would agree perhaps the best speaker out there under a grand. When Polk recently offered them to forum members for nearly half off they became the best bang for the buck speaker out there. They have excellent deep lows and at the same time very nice high frequencies. This assumes good source and power although they sound pretty decent even with my Pioneer Elite SC-27 receiver. But with tubes they shine. BTW, I actually prefer my Monitor 4 Peerless to my Monitor 5’s, although both are nice speakers, the 4’s constantly amaze me with how much comes out of those little boxes especially the LF’s. I will attempt soon to put the Monitor 5 Peerless up against the R200’s but it may be a bit yet. The old and new each have their attributes. But like I said, generally speaking, (IMHO and with some exceptions which may be influenced by gear and personal preferences), there is a progression with Polk bookies.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,894
    Re: the nice summary post above: My knee-jerk thought was that the original morph of the "Monitor 4" (which, as mentioned above, used the redoubtable Peerless silk dome tweeter) was the "best" comparator of old vs. new at the R100 or R200 level. The original Monitor 4 was/is a really, really nice little loudspeaker.

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    source: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/148194/opinion-on-polk-monitor-4-with-peerless-tweeters

  • Nabman
    Nabman Posts: 33
    Thank you all for answering.
    Monitor 5 Series II
    RTA 11T
  • dromunds wrote: »
    I have Monitor 5 Peerless and R200’s so I could compare them but haven’t yet. My general sense from having pretty much all the bookies at one point or another including currently having the L200’s, LSiM 703’s, LSi-9’s and several of the RT and RTi’s is that the R200’s (and L200) represent a progression of Polk’s institutional memory and engineering knowledge. (The R200 is obviously an effort to economize the L200 but they still share many attributes.) I can tell you the R200’s are really nice and I think most would agree perhaps the best speaker out there under a grand. When Polk recently offered them to forum members for nearly half off they became the best bang for the buck speaker out there. They have excellent deep lows and at the same time very nice high frequencies. This assumes good source and power although they sound pretty decent even with my Pioneer Elite SC-27 receiver. But with tubes they shine. BTW, I actually prefer my Monitor 4 Peerless to my Monitor 5’s, although both are nice speakers, the 4’s constantly amaze me with how much comes out of those little boxes especially the LF’s. I will attempt soon to put the Monitor 5 Peerless up against the R200’s but it may be a bit yet. The old and new each have their attributes. But like I said, generally speaking, (IMHO and with some exceptions which may be influenced by gear and personal preferences), there is a progression with Polk bookies.
    . Did you ever get a chance to do that comparison between your Monitor 5's and the R200's? I'm really curious of your findings if so. I have a pair of 5jr's and was wondering if the R200's would be a worthy next step or side step?

  • Hansvelton
    Hansvelton Posts: 151
    edited February 2022
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Re: the nice summary post above: My knee-jerk thought was that the original morph of the "Monitor 4" (which, as mentioned above, used the redoubtable Peerless silk dome tweeter) was the "best" comparator of old vs. new at the R100 or R200 level. The original Monitor 4 was/is a really, really nice little loudspeaker.

    2pahsgta7x7v.png
    source: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/148194/opinion-on-polk-monitor-4-with-peerless-tweeters

    As much as I like several of the older vintage monitor line, and having not heard the upper(recent) lines of Polk, from all I have read, they seem to be simply in another league as compared to the older 80s models.

  • skrol wrote: »
    Comparing my RTA-11TL to the LSi15, I have to say that they are just different presentations and neither is necessarily wrong. The LSi has wonderful imaging and I love the mids-highs. They are probably more accurate. My moded RTA's also image very well and are very cohesive. I love the bass. In some ways I enjoy then more than the LSi. When I got the LSi's I thought I'd get rid of the RTA's but I still like them too much.

    I did some really in depth comparing of an older Rta11t with the Lsi15 and I have to agree with what you found!

    I thought the bass of the Rta11t was just better overall than the Lsi15, but the mids and highs on the lsi are just really great!
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,387
    I have the RTA11TLs and the LSi15. I agree that I love the bass of the RTA11TL over the LSi15. However the LSi15 is better in the mids uppers and imaging. However, I do still enjoy my RTA11TLs very much in a different way.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601