Windows 11

ADJ
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Anyone tried this yet? Impressions?
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,504
    edited October 2021
    I'm just a basic user so don't expect too much from me. ;) I have it on my fairy new Dell laptop with Intel Iris XE Max graphics. It arrived with Win 10 and upgraded to Win 11. At first glance it seems like just a more polished presentation with rounded corners and things moved around. Your start menu at left side lower corner is gone, though IIRC you can change that. Start button defaults to center of screen in the lower taskbar.

    After my Dell "upgraded" to Win 11, the Start button wouldn't work. When I clicked on it, most of the time nothing happened. If it did appear, it was there and gone in a micro second. This made it difficult to access programs, I had to perform a Search for them. Dell support said we don't know. No answers at Microsoft. Then an Internet search led me to an obscure post at some forum where someone said they removed the Intel Iris XE graphics from device manager and rebooted, then the start menu would appear and remain.

    That fixed the start menu issue but created another. When I have a browser opened and get a message from Eset virus scan, the icon and print are so tiny you need a magnifying glass to read it. I can magnify the browser page, but the icon remains tiny. I haven't looked into how to fix that yet...

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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    Hopefully all my USB dacs run on it when the time comes, another upgrade enough already.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,040
    A fairy computer? I'm sure there is a support group for that....
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    SCompRacer wrote: »
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    After my Dell "upgraded" to Win 11, the Start button wouldn't work. When I clicked on it, most of the time nothing happened. If it did appear, it was there and gone in a micro second. This made it difficult to access programs, I had to perform a Search for them. Dell support said we don't know. No answers at Microsoft. Then an Internet search led me to an obscure post at some forum where someone said they removed the Intel Iris XE graphics from device manager and rebooted, then the start menu would appear and remain.

    That fixed the start menu issue but created another. When I have a browser opened and get a message from Eset virus scan, the icon and print are so tiny you need a magnifying glass to read it. I can magnify the browser page, but the icon remains tiny. I haven't looked into how to fix that yet...
    Lordy, but I love technology -- especially for its own sake. :/

    As Dr. Zachary Smith would've put it:

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,504
    Willow wrote: »
    A fairy computer? I'm sure there is a support group for that....

    I'm told it's all about inclusion these days....
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,504
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    As Dr. Zachary Smith would've put it:

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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    Seems every other windows release is awful.
    I'm holding out for a while
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,556
    If ya'll ain't noticed every other windows OS software is a pig.
    Wait for the next one😉
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    If ya'll ain't noticed every other windows OS software is a pig.
    Wait for the next one😉

    Yup, and it was true for some revs of MS/DOS, too, as many of the crustier denizens of this forum may recall :#



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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    In August I finally received my MSI Tiamat with extra goodies back ordered since February
    Anyway my IT support team has been beating up 11 for almost a year
    I have 10 pro, and they said my machine will love 11. These guys are old hackers.
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,504
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    If ya'll ain't noticed every other windows OS software is a pig.
    Wait for the next one😉

    I'm old and may check out before 12. :o
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,786
    I look back with fondness on Windows ME.

    Of course. I look back with fondness on the day I got married.

    Both wound up with about the same level of functionality and aggravation. 🤯
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    If ya'll ain't noticed every other windows OS software is a pig.
    Wait for the next one😉

    I'm old and may check out before 12. :o

    :(
    I mean, you should hold on 'til Lucky Thirteen, you know?
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    All I can add to this thread is...

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    oh, and...

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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,120
    edited October 2022
    I just started playing around with this a couple of weeks ago. I set it up in a VM. You can still install it with a few registry adjustments to bypass the hardware check if your computer doesn't have TPM 2.0.

    I'm actually really enjoying it so far. To me, it seems like they've combined Win 10 framework with some style elements. That was one of the things I really liked about Win7 and some Linux distributions - they look nice, and are pleasing to use. Win11 is smooth, clean, looks really nice.

    Definitely have to customize it a bit to make it your own, but I like it better than Win10, almost as much as Win7, and never liked Win8. That was like a style prison.

    You can use your Win7 - 10 product key with it, too.
    https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
    This link has options to let you install/upgrade, create USB boot media, or download the .iso

    Techy tinkerers can download Oracle VirtualBox free to play around with desktop virtualization if you don't already use VMware, Fusion, or Hyper-V. Virtualization'll work best if you have at minimum 16GB RAM and a solid state disk.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,738
    I have been using it for a few months.... Similar to windows 10. I disabled the center oriented task bar... Had been stable overall
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    Mrs. H has a lappie with Win11.
    It's OK. I do not like the move away from words in the drop-down menus.
    I also don't like the fact that MS moved some of the stuff I use in the File Explorer (or whatever it might be called) into secondary menus.
    ... and let's just not even talk about the preschool-style interfaces that the Office 365 suite of apps have evolved over the last couple of years.

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,525
    I updated my desktop a couple weeks ago. Went smoothly and didn’t take long. It does have the usual Microsoft annoyances of moving stuff around with menus and layout for no apparent reason. I wouldn’t say it’s an upgrade for me but doesn’t seem to have harmed anything. I did have to update a graphics driver after the update to Windows 11.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,120
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Mrs. H has a lappie with Win11.
    It's OK. I do not like the move away from words in the drop-down menus.
    I also don't like the fact that MS moved some of the stuff I use in the File Explorer (or whatever it might be called) into secondary menus.
    ... and let's just not even talk about the preschool-style interfaces that the Office 365 suite of apps have evolved over the last couple of years.
    I agree on anything preschool-styled. Like pretty much every website on the planet now. I don't need it to be in fat-crayon 36pt size to be able to read it.

    re: that secondary menu - the "simplified" context menu where you have to go more options to see the full context menu? you can also disable that with a reg key adjustment. still getting used to some stuff, and trying to be open about some changes and not immediately keep trying to recreate a Win7 experience.

    I do prefer the "compact view" in File Explorer. (funny to me, over the years, every time I used to ask a user to open Windows Explorer, they'd open Internet Explorer. Oh, sorry, I mean the yellow one. File Explorer is more concise at least, but yeah
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,556
    edited October 2022
    I like it but I'm not nears as smart some of you technically advanced lunatics,
    ( looking at you Scott ! You bright bastage😉) I had to use that red headed step child Win8 for a few years. That was as terrible as ME if not worse! When they updated my mothers pc to Win10 I was happy until I came home from work to find my mother had called someone to revert it back to Win 8, I walked out to the geerage and gave myself seven hard wacks upon my cranium.....
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    Win 11 orphans a whole lot of pc's.
    Anything more than a couple years old
    won't upgrade.
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  • tonyp063
    tonyp063 Posts: 1,087
    edited October 2022
    Win11 is....adequate. I agree about the annoyance wrt things being removed. And yes, the O365 interface bites the big one.

    Thankfully I don't have to use it much.
    RedHat is how I earn my kibble.

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited October 2022
    Windows? Is that the thing that's always running behind my Steam and Xbox apps?

    I haven't had any qualms with Windows 11 yet. The auto HDR function is pretty nice.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited October 2022
    I quite liked W10, which was the last Windows OS I ever had to use personally. It was the closest thing to a proper OS from Microsoft ever, but it still managed to throw up weird cryptic messages, and the occasional pop-up window that looks like it came from Windows 95.

    Fortunately, I’ll never have to update a Windows computer ever again. The entire family is on macOS now, other than work computers, which are so locked down for confidentiality and updates that we have absolutely zero control over, including what does or doesn’t happen.

    MacOS updates once a year. You discover new features. And that’s about it. Nothing ever happens that requires user intervention. Absolutely nothing.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,120
    Well that doesn't sound like very much fun at all!

    Love my MBPs. Both platforms have their strengths and fit imho. I can't say one is better than the other overall.
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  • CGTIII
    CGTIII Posts: 1,080
    edited November 2022
    Since Win10 just became generally stable on most machines last year, I expect Win11 could be generally stable next year. Still warning clients away from it for now. Also controlling updates for clients on Win10 and Win11 to avoid the bad updates. It's called Black Tuesday for many reasons.
    Expect that there will be bumps in the road. Choose to not let them rattle you.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    "Black Tuesday"... yeah, I get that. :#
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,120
    CGTIII wrote: »
    Since Win10 just became generally stable on most machines last year, I expect Win11 could be generally stable next year. Still warning clients away from it for now. Also controlling updates for clients on Win10 and Win11 to avoid the bad updates. It's called Black Tuesday for many reasons.

    Curious, what kind of stability issues are you seeing or hearing? And what hardware?
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    I use a tablet 95% of the time. Don't care about windows that much.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • CGTIII
    CGTIII Posts: 1,080
    msg wrote: »
    Curious, what kind of stability issues are you seeing or hearing? And what hardware?

    I'll give you some links to look into it.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/xrfb07/some_of_the_issues_in_windows_11_are_so/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/utgtlx/why_the_hell_do_people_hate_windows_11_so_much/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/xls335/windows_11_22h2_issues_fps_drops_bsod/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/y5oz3a/windows_11_22h2_apparently_causing_performance/
    https://www.askwoody.com/forums/forum/askwoody-support/windows/windows-11/
    Expect that there will be bumps in the road. Choose to not let them rattle you.

    Polk - Monitor 10As, SDA 2Bs, LSi9s, White RTi4s, S4s, M3s, various centers.
    Boston - CR7, CR6s, CR4s.
    Subs - M&K V4, M&K VX-7B, JBL SUB150P, Jamo Sub 250, and others.
    ​Thompson Adventures, Inc.
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