Why so few residential properties w/o solar in Arizona?
muncybob
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Just back from 2 weeks in the Grand Canyon state, had a great time. I noticed very few homes with solar as compared to Pa. where we get a fraction of the sunny days. Do solar "farms" provide electricity so cheap there that it's not worth the $$ to go solar?
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My sons landlord has put solar panels on every rental house he has. My son called me up one day to vent about his $9 electricity bill for the month. I laughed, he laughed it was the first time in almost 5 yrs he had to pay a electrical bill.
I talked to the landlord and it cost $40K at that time to put them on the houses. while a steep investment it pays for itself in a decade he said. -
I talked to the landlord and it cost $40K at that time to put them on the houses. while a steep investment it pays for itself in a decade he said.
If you buy them yourself and not through one of these scam leasing thing.
I'm all for solar. It's a good idea but as an augmentation to other power sources.
I'm not for predatory lending based on shoddy equipment installed by scammers who disappear within a year and leave the customer high and dry while the lending agency demands payment even if the shoddy equipment has destroyed a $25K roof.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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If you buy them yourself and not through one of these scam leasing thing.
This at the time about 7 yrs ago was his cost plus a bit of labor to install and it was not a lease it was yours to keep.
The cost included all switches and such for keeping track of the electricity put back into the grid that the power company paid you for.
The landlord created a Solar installation business that is still going strong. Straight up guy no funny stuff.I'm all for solar. It's a good idea but as an augmentation to other power sources.
Indeed you still should have local power company electricity just in case of heavy snow or extended rainy conditions.
I'm all for it as well. It will more than likely be installed sooner or later on my house once I buy one or inherit the house I live at now.
As a FYI our electricity cost is .04 a Kwh
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Arizona's retail cost per kWh is right at average for the US so not a whole lot of incentive for most people to spend thousands up front for a solar installation when electricity bills aren't that high. Ironically places in New England would benefit the most from solar because their electricity retail prices are far higher. Hawaii is even more special because most of their energy still has to be imported.
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Arizona's retail cost per kWh is right at average for the US so not a whole lot of incentive for most people to spend thousands up front for a solar installation when electricity bills aren't that high. Ironically places in New England would benefit the most from solar because their electricity retail prices are far higher. Hawaii is even more special because most of their energy still has to be imported.
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/
True. While some of our state may be at the .09kWh our two cities has set up a plan to buy from "in bulk" so to speak and you must ask to get out of the agreement IF you find a cheaper supplier. In the last 10yrs they have you may find it cheaper from another supplier you are saving 1/2 or 1/4 pennies for one or two years where the cities have negotiated for a cheaper longer term.
If you decline the set up agreement the city has negotiated or ask to be let out you cannot get back in until the NEW agreement the cities set up. -
I thought maybe the heat would come into play in Arizona. I'm told heat is more detrimental to the panels than the cold is.
We recently took the solar plunge even though our break even point is around 10 years. I expect to still be paying for electricity in 10 years so it's all good since the panels have a 20 yr warranty. Actually, with SRECs into play in Pa. our break even date should be even sooner. Lately our electric bills have been only certain fees/taxes that we cannot avoid here, apprx. $17/mo.Yep, my name really is Bob.
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For us going Solar was about the break even point.
We looked into it in 2015 or so. Even with San Diego rates it was a 10 year+ break even. We said no.
Last year with the pandemic, wife working from home plugging in the big freezer our average bill went from $160 to north of $220. That is without AC. We looked into solar again and the cost was way down. In 2015 it was over $25k, last year we paid $15k. With the increased SDG&E rates our break even went to 4.5 years.
We just had our first true-up bill, that is where we pay the difference or get credit for electrical use. $237 for the year, not bad considering we ran the AC way too much. My wife was saying we have Solar run the AC 24/7. This year we have not ran the AC as much so our true-up should be more even next year.
This year's project was the yard. SoCal water rates are going up. We did turf in the front and rocked 1/2 the back yard. That should cut into our $160 a month water bill.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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While some of our state may be at the .09kWhResidential electricity prices in Arvada, CO in June 2021 averaged approximately 13.13 cents per kilowatthour (¢/kWh), which was about 5% less than the national average rate of 13.85 ¢/kWh (June 2021).
You guys are doing pretty good over there. Can I run an extension cord to your place and just pay you?
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While some of our state may be at the .09kWhResidential electricity prices in Arvada, CO in June 2021 averaged approximately 13.13 cents per kilowatthour (¢/kWh), which was about 5% less than the national average rate of 13.85 ¢/kWh (June 2021).
You guys are doing pretty good over there. Can I run an extension cord to your place and just pay you?
Make it a big'n!!!
My electric rate is .04355
Our rates used to go from .09 in fall, winter and spring. Summer rates jumped to .14 per kWh -
We are charged .07 here. Have not had a bill over $18 since February, I can get use to that!
I hope we don;t have a lot of snow like last year though. It's a real pita to clean the panels off on the barn roof.Yep, my name really is Bob.
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We are charged .07 here. Have not had a bill over $18 since February, I can get use to that!
I hope we don;t have a lot of snow like last year though. It's a real pita to clean the panels off on the barn roof.
Should have opted for the heated panels.....
