Rare Peerless Tweeters?

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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,460
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    So if you are convinced you have an ultra rare pair of Peerless tweeters because you've seen thousands and none of them have ever matched these, why come on this forum to get our approval?
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  • mhardy6647
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    audioluvr wrote: »
    So if you are convinced you have an ultra rare pair of Peerless tweeters because you've seen thousands and none of them have ever matched these, why come on this forum to get our approval?

    Indeed -- the OP should put 'em on eBAY & see what they fetch.
    Corollary question: Are there Peerless silk dome collectors?

    I mean, I kind of collect EPI/Epicure/Genesis 'airspring' tweeters -- but not Peerlesses (well... unless they have loudspeakers wrapped around 'em).

    15411126332_c768daf8dd_z.jpgEPIsprings by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • pitdogg2
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    He seen them on eBay. IF they were used on a Polk speaker it was before Polk started burning a hole in the dome. Of course those type of peerless tweeters were used by many manufacturers.
  • invalid
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    Is there really any rare peerless tweeters? He could have found the answer if he would have just spent a little time searching the forum.
  • Manfred_22
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    audioluvr wrote: »
    So if you are convinced you have an ultra rare pair of Peerless tweeters because you've seen thousands and none of them have ever matched these, why come on this forum to get our approval?

    Bruh I have no idea if they rare. That’s why I’m asking. Can you read?
  • Manfred_22
    Manfred_22 Posts: 32
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    Tell me where on the forum have you seen molding around the terminals like that?
  • Manfred_22
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    invalid wrote: »
    Is there really any rare peerless tweeters? He could have found the answer if he would have just spent a little time searching the forum.

    Find me the exact same tweeters I posted somewhere in this forum
  • Manfred_22
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    He seen them on eBay. IF they were used on a Polk speaker it was before Polk started burning a hole in the dome. Of course those type of peerless tweeters were used by many manufacturers.
    Way to assume my gender…. I’m actually a girl thanks 🤦🏼
  • pitdogg2
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    What speaker are you planning on using them in ?
  • pitdogg2
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    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    M5

    If yours came with a peerless then just do it. You're not buying the lost diamond from the titanic.
    You can always search it out. Polk modified their peerless by burning a hole in the dome, nothing says whatever manufacturer that bought those didn't do the same. It still doesn't make them rare afaik
  • txcoastal1
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    @audioluvr ....dude not cool....remove that most
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  • Gardenstater
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    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    Tell me where on the forum have you seen molding around the terminals like that?

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    I have seen these ones for sale on eBay. I did think what you refer to as "moulding around the terminals" looked odd myself. I believe someone or some manufacturer cut a thick gasket to fit tightly around the magnet with small holes for the terminals and when mounted it compressed the bejeezus out of everywhere except a tiny ring around the magnet and circles around the terminals.

    Those Peerless were made in the 43rd week of 1979, by the date code. Probably made in Denmark because I don't believe any were being made in USA yet that early. They are very close in appearance and date to the ones in my 7B's, except they don't have the aperture tuning hole in the dome that Polk did, and the gaskets from Polk are a large elliptical cutout that goes around the outside of the terminals.
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  • F1nut
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    Stop feeding the low IQ troll.....geesh!
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  • Manfred_22
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    M5

    If yours came with a peerless then just do it. You're not buying the lost diamond from the titanic.
    You can always search it out. Polk modified their peerless by burning a hole in the dome, nothing says whatever manufacturer that bought those didn't do the same. It still doesn't make them rare afaik

    Alrighty. I appreciate all the info and advice! I will consider everything you said. Very helpful!
  • Manfred_22
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    audioluvr wrote: »
    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    So if you are convinced you have an ultra rare pair of Peerless tweeters because you've seen thousands and none of them have ever matched these, why come on this forum to get our approval?

    Bruh I have no idea if they rare. That’s why I’m asking. Can you read?
    The title of the discussion you created "Rare Peerless Tweeter?" suggests you are asking for confirmation that is what these are. If you were simply wanting to know if they could be used as a factory replacement in your set of Monitor 5's you should have started the conversation with that. You were the one that started berating long standing members who simply didn't give you the answer you were hoping for.

    I'm not trying to be an a-hole here. If I were I'd have posted something like this...

    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    Way to assume my gender…. I’m actually a girl thanks 🤦🏼

    Were you born that way? Or is that just what you want everyone to think?


    Ummm…….not very helpful, but go off I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Manfred_22
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Stop feeding the low IQ troll.....geesh!

    😂 I can’t Believe you’re still on my thread
  • Manfred_22
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    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    Tell me where on the forum have you seen molding around the terminals like that?

    013pdsovi6lf.png


    I have seen these ones for sale on eBay. I did think what you refer to as "moulding around the terminals" looked odd myself. I believe someone or some manufacturer cut a thick gasket to fit tightly around the magnet with small holes for the terminals and when mounted it compressed the bejeezus out of everywhere except a tiny ring around the magnet and circles around the terminals.

    Those Peerless were made in the 43rd week of 1979, by the date code. Probably made in Denmark because I don't believe any were being made in USA yet that early. They are very close in appearance and date to the ones in my 7B's, except they don't have the aperture tuning hole in the dome that Polk did, and the gaskets from Polk are a large elliptical cutout that goes around the outside of the terminals.

    Very insightful. Do you have a picture of the ones from your 7s? It would be really cool to compare!
  • Manfred_22
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    @F1nut just because Someone finally called you out on your behavior doesn’t make them a troll
  • audioluvr
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    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    So if you are convinced you have an ultra rare pair of Peerless tweeters because you've seen thousands and none of them have ever matched these, why come on this forum to get our approval?

    Bruh I have no idea if they rare. That’s why I’m asking. Can you read?
    The title of the discussion you created "Rare Peerless Tweeter?" suggests you are asking for confirmation that is what these are. If you were simply wanting to know if they could be used as a factory replacement in your set of Monitor 5's you should have started the conversation with that. You were the one that started berating long standing members who simply didn't give you the answer you were hoping for.

    I'm not trying to be an a-hole here. If I were I'd have posted something like this...

    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    Way to assume my gender…. I’m actually a girl thanks 🤦🏼

    Were you born that way? Or is that just what you want everyone to think?


    Ummm…….not very helpful, but go off I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

    See @txcoastal1, @Manfred_22 has a sense of humor! I say welcome to Club Polk... Oh crap, where's that drinking emoji.
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  • BlueFox
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    Did his original question get answered? I lost track after the side-track comments.
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  • mhardy6647
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    BlueFox wrote: »
    Did his original question get answered? I lost track after the side-track comments.

    Unclear. Not sure what the original question really was.
    Oh.
    Found this from a seller on eBay….. It’s listed as peerless, but I’ve never seen this type before. Erlier model maybe? Hoping someone with more knowledge could provide some clarification.

    So... I'd say, as per @Gardenstater's post above, probably an OEM version -- although these were also sold "loose" for DIY use (and as part of driver kits for DIY use), so they could have been produced/modified for a specific use -- or hacked by a wild-eyed, caffeine-fueled hobbyist. :)
    It should be recalled that Peerless sold zillions of these to commerical loudspeaker manufacturers (US and European) and DIYers at least into the early 1990s (see old PartsExpress catalogs, e.g.).

    E.g., here's an unusual OEM variant (relative to the 'standard' KO10DT) of the Peerless, as used by Acoustic Research in the early Teledyne era. This is an early AR14.


    13425413725_fe65cb05ab_c.jpgoldAR14tweeter by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • Manfred_22
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    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Did his original question get answered? I lost track after the side-track comments.

    Unclear. Not sure what the original question really was.
    Oh.
    Found this from a seller on eBay….. It’s listed as peerless, but I’ve never seen this type before. Erlier model maybe? Hoping someone with more knowledge could provide some clarification.

    So... I'd say, as per @Gardenstater's post above, probably an OEM version -- although these were also sold "loose" for DIY use (and as part of driver kits for DIY use), so they could have been produced/modified for a specific use -- or hacked by a wild-eyed, caffeine-fueled hobbyist. :)
    It should be recalled that Peerless sold zillions of these to commerical loudspeaker manufacturers (US and European) and DIYers at least into the early 1990s (see old PartsExpress catalogs, e.g.).

    E.g., here's an unusual OEM variant (relative to the 'standard' KO10DT) of the Peerless, as used by Acoustic Research in the early Teledyne era. This is an early AR14.


    13425413725_fe65cb05ab_c.jpgoldAR14tweeter by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    NICE. That is one wacky cut out :D. Does it sound sweet?
  • Manfred_22
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    audioluvr wrote: »
    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    So if you are convinced you have an ultra rare pair of Peerless tweeters because you've seen thousands and none of them have ever matched these, why come on this forum to get our approval?

    Bruh I have no idea if they rare. That’s why I’m asking. Can you read?
    The title of the discussion you created "Rare Peerless Tweeter?" suggests you are asking for confirmation that is what these are. If you were simply wanting to know if they could be used as a factory replacement in your set of Monitor 5's you should have started the conversation with that. You were the one that started berating long standing members who simply didn't give you the answer you were hoping for.

    I'm not trying to be an a-hole here. If I were I'd have posted something like this...

    Manfred_22 wrote: »
    Way to assume my gender…. I’m actually a girl thanks 🤦🏼

    Were you born that way? Or is that just what you want everyone to think?


    Ummm…….not very helpful, but go off I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

    See @txcoastal1, @Manfred_22 has a sense of humor! I say welcome to Club Polk... Oh crap, where's that drinking emoji.

    HAHAHAA THANKS LMAO
  • mhardy6647
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    Despite the AR14 being a very large 'bookshelf' two-way with a 10" woofer (?!) and a 1" tweeter (!?!), yes, it was/is a good sounding loudspeaker.

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    source: http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/library/acoustic_research/add_series_1975-1978/add_series_brochures/ar-14_brochure/ar-14_brochure_pg2.html

    The Peerless silk dome tweeter was widely used: besides Polk & AR, e.g., Cizek, bang & olufsen, and KLH used them in various models starting in the early 1970s. There were other loudspeaker manufacturers that used them, but they're escaping my recollection at the moment.


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    And you are the new mod, Bindingposter?
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    I do not have that title. I am just a regular forum member.
  • Manfred_22
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    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Did his original question get answered? I lost track after the side-track comments.

    Unclear. Not sure what the original question really was.
    Oh.
    Found this from a seller on eBay….. It’s listed as peerless, but I’ve never seen this type before. Erlier model maybe? Hoping someone with more knowledge could provide some clarification.

    So... I'd say, as per @Gardenstater's post above, probably an OEM version -- although these were also sold "loose" for DIY use (and as part of driver kits for DIY use), so they could have been produced/modified for a specific use -- or hacked by a wild-eyed, caffeine-fueled hobbyist. :)
    It should be recalled that Peerless sold zillions of these to commerical loudspeaker manufacturers (US and European) and DIYers at least into the early 1990s (see old PartsExpress catalogs, e.g.).

    E.g., here's an unusual OEM variant (relative to the 'standard' KO10DT) of the Peerless, as used by Acoustic Research in the early Teledyne era. This is an early AR14.


    13425413725_fe65cb05ab_c.jpgoldAR14tweeter by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    So now I’m confused 😂. I thought the KO10DT was made in the 90s as a replacement for the original peerless tweeters made in the 80s and 70s. (HF1000) or something. Or is the KO10DT just another same for them? Or a totally different version
  • invalid
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    I tell the OP to spend a little more time searching the forum and the OP calls me offensive names. I see the mods removed that post.