Crossover settings

dr25
dr25 Posts: 1
Ok guys I new to the Home Theater scene so please bear with me and help me to understand if possible. My set up is purely for music using the Onkyo tx rz820 7.2 front left and right channels are the monitor 70 series II my surrounds are also monitor 70 series II the surround rears are the RTI 100 I have two overhead Polk RC80i in the ceiling and two psw 505 subs
I can not get the crossovers set right that's what I'm thinking doesn't seem to have body to the sound, sounds flat. Any help would be gratefully appreciated

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,547
    Typically it should be set at 80hz and route all to under 80hz to the subs. Have you ran the room correction software?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,643
    Should have gone with separates or an integrated and a better pair speakers for an all music rig.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,523
    Recommend running the auto calibration from the receiver, if not already done, then checking levels manually using an SPL meter. Check the crossover points the auto calibration set too.
  • atmost
    atmost Posts: 2
    edited July 10
    I have four RC80i in my ceiling, two PSW505 subs on my floor, and in my 7.2.4, lots of K-brand in between, but since the subs are in laboratory engineered enclosures have a 160Hz rated usable response and a ±3dB rating of 125 HZ, with that all being non directional energy that doesn't affect the soundstage, and since when lower or lowest frequency bass is present, most of the sub power is used by that, and so the demand difference on the subs isn't huge when switched from 80Hz to 125Hz, if the crossover setting is raised from the 80Hz home theater norm right up to 125Hz, wouldn't assigning RC80i bass to the subs, or even to the 6 sides, clean up the bass and as an added bargain, leave the rest of the system with more power for the sides and ceiling? While my receiver is 115 w RMS per channel into my 8 ohm loads, that's with only 2 channels driven, and it can be required to drive up to 9 of the 11 channels, the available power dropping with each addition, and so instead I used the Pre Out for the Front channels, right from the start, to drive a 250W per channel A/B stereo amp, plus I have 2 additional stereo amp pairs for surround side and rear, and so the receiver only powers the center and ceiling, and that boils down to the amps in my PSW505 subs establishing the limit of the system, but I have two subs (300 Watts "continuous" x2 = 600 Watts), you have two subs, and in most rooms that's a fairly comfortable limit. Why not try 125Hz, or even higher for the ceiling? Is the Onkyo, unassisted, really enough power for all of your passive speakers? Maybe they hunger for more. Have you tried placing a PSW505 in the listening position and doing the "subwoofer crawl" around the room to try to determine where the bass sounds best, and so where the subwoofers should be placed? Have you tried re angling the RC80i tweeters for direct, pointed at the listener, or reflected, pointed at the wall, sound? (I personally prefer direct aiming for most content). Have you tried toeing in the floor speakers?
  • atmost
    atmost Posts: 2
    There are plenty of amps that cost more, and also tube amp and A/B amp choices for using receiver Pre Outs. A very few receivers use, or even have returned to class A/B, but most are class D, and assembled in China, and so to say that Fosi is Chinese isn't a distinction. They use Texas Instrument chips in many of their class D amps, plus so many other optional swappable optimizations to satisfy individual experimenters. Their V3 amp is overly complicated my a volume control, and it also comes in the ZA3 version for people who need balanced XLR inputs. I think you could benefit from an even more powerful amp for your fronts, but these Fosi amps, added to one pair, or a few PRE OUT pairs, won't diminish the quality of most any AV receiver, and should provide enough power to your fronts or to as many pairs as you like, to revitalize the power levels of your possibly overtaxed Onkyo. Bezos would love your purchasing them from Amazon and they do sell them in both the 32 W and 48 W versions (The 48 watts is a must, 5 amp or even 10 amp, to get the most from these amps), but everytime Bezos' such and such shaped object carries him and his rich friends into free fall, it upsets me that I helped pay for that, so you can order securely from Fosi, and they usually have a discount code available, for less. https://fosiaudio.com/
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,643
    Say what!?!
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