KLH Model 5

TroyD
TroyD Posts: 13,077
Anyone seen/heard ‘em?

Seems to be well regarded......and seems to show that the classic 3-way acoustic suspension design was, indeed, a timeless one.

BDT
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,525
    Lots of positive chatter online about these to the extent they seem to be backordered until at least July. May be hard to get ears on them until then.

    https://klhaudio.com/model-five-pair/
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,525
    My first set of "real" speakers was an acoustic suspension design. The KLH Model 5s have got my interest. I haven't seen a negative review of them yet except for the limited number of finishes.
  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,336
    I owned a pair of the original Model 5's back in the early 70's. I was never that impressed with them, I thought they were too laid back. But looking back at it now, I probably didn't feed them enough power. I had a small integrated and maybe it didn't let them open up enough.
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    Well, depends on what your cuppa tea is......none of the East Coast (AR/KLH/Advent) were up in your face type speakers....and were all laid back. I think it’s part and parcel to the design philosophy......

    An updated Monitor 7 would be COOL.....
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  • SeleniumFalcon
    SeleniumFalcon Posts: 3,831
    edited May 2021
    I believe the goal was to give the listener in a classical auditorium a "tenth row center" simulation. I'd venture it's safe to say most of today's audio equipment buyers don't have that as a goal. If you take the average audio enthusiast to a live classical concert they are disappointed in the lack of presence and pin point image they expect from their home systems.
    When I first started to go to classical concerts and would read the program guide the usher would hand you as you walked to your seat there would be ads for audio shops: Gramophone and Soundscape. These described how with the right audio equipment you could take the musical experience of the concert hall home. Now when I go to concerts, the programs have retirement home and financial planner ads and maybe a Volvo dealership. The link between classical music appreciation and audio gear, at least in the US, has diminished.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    I still have components purchased from both Gramophone & Soundscape :)
    I doubt rather seriously that the new KLH 5 sounds all that much like the original -- which was quite a nice loudspeaker, BTW.

    Volvos... heh... I think the town must have some kind of rule on the road we live on that every household has to have at least one Volvo wagon or SUV! Many folks up the hill from us have two -- probably by necessity in the wintertime. The town might not have let us build our house if they knew we were rockin' cheap Japanese vehicles! ;) (although I suspect they enjoy the real estate tax they get from us every year...)


  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    If not mistaken, I think the new KLH 5 has a metal tweeter....which is borderline heresy......
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    TroyD wrote: »
    If not mistaken, I think the new KLH 5 has a metal tweeter....which is borderline heresy......

    Don't ever say Heresy in the presence of a KLH loudspeaker! ;)

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  • SeleniumFalcon
    SeleniumFalcon Posts: 3,831
    Buddha seems to have a noncommittal expression...
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    Sean, liked them?

    I bet they sounded great in his mom’s basement....
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,159
    I'm just glad that @mhardy6647 commented and is still active on this forum.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    I was looking at the reviews of the new model 5. Looks like a lot more then Sean that likes them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU3X5syv1Tk
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    erniejade wrote: »
    I was looking at the reviews of the new model 5. Looks like a lot more then Sean that likes them.

    That's the guy who reviewed the L800 and couldn't grasp what SDA is about, said something about them being too big and couldn't understand why the SDA cable is required. IMO, his opinions are lacking.

    Anyway, my 2 cents on this review. Right off, the fact he and his wife like Klipsch tells me that I'm not going to like the KLH5. I had to crack up when his wife chimed in that she doesn't like red wood. First, the cabinet color is not really red as it has orange tones and second, has she looked at their carpet?

    Looking at their room I'd have to say the speaker color goes extremely well with the rest.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited May 2021
    I've watched some of his videos.....meh.

    Yeah, for a supposed smart guy, I don't think that SDA is terribly complicated to understand....and if you do, his complaints are nonsensical....and the cable? One stupid cable?

    One eye'd butt pirate.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    LOL.....HAARRRRR
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    I guess I need to look for that L800 review!
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,148
    F1nut wrote: »
    erniejade wrote: »
    I was looking at the reviews of the new model 5. Looks like a lot more then Sean that likes them.

    That's the guy who reviewed the L800 and couldn't grasp what SDA is about, said something about them being too big and couldn't understand why the SDA cable is required. IMO, his opinions are lacking.

    Anyway, my 2 cents on this review. Right off, the fact he and his wife like Klipsch tells me that I'm not going to like the KLH5. I had to crack up when his wife chimed in that she doesn't like red wood. First, the cabinet color is not really red as it has orange tones and second, has she looked at their carpet?

    Looking at their room I'd have to say the speaker color goes extremely well with the rest.
    iy2kak029evc.jpeg

    I always take their reviews with a big grain of salt. He will take a sleek lifestyle product over a quality sounding product a large percentage of the time. In some of his reviews he even talks about being happy to trade off the difference in sound (which I think he oversells) for the smaller form factors, sleek styling and full color LED screens on devices.

    But going back to the KLH Model 5 - I haven't heard them. But based on the wide range of reviews I'd like to. A lot of stuff gets good reviews, and sometimes it's easier to discern a sound when you watch a lot of these reviewers regularly and when a reviewer is giving an objective "good" vs when they are actually excited or surprised. What stuck me most about the KLH5 was the number of reviewers that seemed to be authentically impressed. Including some that have some generally different preferences.
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  • VSAT88
    VSAT88 Posts: 1,260
    edited May 2021
    Looks like they cheated everyone out of a mid range too... I liked my KLH 5's, original ones. The vintage ugly speakers do have something going for them. Like AR 3, Original Advent, KLH 5. And as far as sound you know you got the East Coast Sound the West Coast Sound the British Sound and the Klipsch Sound.. lol. So far the only speakers that I have that I would not sell..they sound like SDA 2B Polk Audio Modded.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    The original KLH Five was quite a nice loudspeaker indeed -- although all of the "New England sound" loudspeakers of the '60s (and '70s) will sound a little "soft" compared to modern loudspeakers. Also (and FWIWI), I like the character of the bass produced by acoustic suspension enclosure alignments, but they are profoundly power hungry "for best results".

    32020181034_0142b8e938_b.jpgDSC_7011 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Not sure that having two midrange drivers was a good thing in terms of wavefront/imaging, though -- it certainly didn't help the Polk Audio Monitor 10 family ;)

    11208619575_674f036d9b_c.jpgP1020559 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    More doesn't always equate to better. For sure.
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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,182
    They look nice!
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  • VSAT88
    VSAT88 Posts: 1,260
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    The original KLH Five was quite a nice loudspeaker indeed -- although all of the "New England sound" loudspeakers of the '60s (and '70s) will sound a little "soft" compared to modern loudspeakers. Also (and FWIWI), I like the character of the bass produced by acoustic suspension enclosure alignments, but they are profoundly power hungry "for best results".

    32020181034_0142b8e938_b.jpgDSC_7011 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Not sure that having two midrange drivers was a good thing in terms of wavefront/imaging, though -- it certainly didn't help the Polk Audio Monitor 10 family ;)

    11208619575_674f036d9b_c.jpgP1020559 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Ah, Polk fixed that with and interconnect, different drivers and crossover upgrade..LOL.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,555
    TroyD wrote: »
    More doesn't always equate to better. For sure.

    True or we all would be rocking Kabuki speakers...
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    Just stumbled across one anecdotal data point on the KLH 5 Someplace Else. See the first reply (i.e., second post) in this thread @ AK: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/help-me-decide-on-some-modern-vintage-inspired-speakers.962482/

  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited June 2021
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Just stumbled across one anecdotal data point on the KLH 5 Someplace Else. See the first reply (i.e., second post) in this thread @ AK: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/help-me-decide-on-some-modern-vintage-inspired-speakers.962482/

    From the other thread on AK "When I heard the KLH's at AXPONA 2019, I wasn't impressed with them. The Wharfedale Linton Heritage, well, I heard them and bought a pair with stands.

    Yes, the highs will be better. The Wharfedale Lintons are 1500 with stands. Get the stands, they are great for the price - built well."



    @Clipdat @joecoulson and myself were in the KLH room at Axpona in 2019. They did not have the model 5 in that room. It was the Kendall and Albany series they were showing off.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,895
    edited June 2021
    erniejade wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Just stumbled across one anecdotal data point on the KLH 5 Someplace Else. See the first reply (i.e., second post) in this thread @ AK: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/help-me-decide-on-some-modern-vintage-inspired-speakers.962482/

    From the other thread on AK "When I heard the KLH's at AXPONA 2019, I wasn't impressed with them. The Wharfedale Linton Heritage, well, I heard them and bought a pair with stands.

    Yes, the highs will be better. The Wharfedale Lintons are 1500 with stands. Get the stands, they are great for the price - built well."



    @Clipdat @joecoulson and myself were in the KLH room at Axpona in 2019. They did not have the model 5 in that room. It was the Kendall and Albany series they were showing off.

    Heh, well, that's interesting! :p

    I would post to that thread & point that out, but I finally threw in the towel @ AK a few months back*; now I just lurk. :|

    I would love to have a chance to hear the new morph of the KLH 5. Not sure when/if the opportunity'll present itself, though.

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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    I posted it on AK. I don't post much on AK in general.
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