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Given there will be a push to make transport electric, did anyone do the math?
We are looking at a household with two cars using 30-50% more power than
They do today. The grid in most states isn't going to handle even a modest
Increase in demand.
We are looking at a household with two cars using 30-50% more power than
They do today. The grid in most states isn't going to handle even a modest
Increase in demand.
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Jeremy Clarkson and James May have been saying that for years
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No problem. Cold fusion is getting closer.
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So 40 years from now you got fusion. And the grid can't handle the load,
So I guess they double the cost per KW to start building it now?
And do you think there's enough rare metals to make batteries for this
New fleet of vehicles?
Botton line is transport and grid costs double today and maybe new tech
Creates the power and builds the batteries?
Maybe it's time to re-examine other tech. Or get used to walking.
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It's a fools errand.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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In my area it doesn't seem to be a problem generating enough power, but the distribution of that power is another matter with the outdated transformers running at 200% capacity.
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Private home/office fuel cells are available. Not saying they're economical, but would relieve the grid load and dependency case by case, if desired.Expect that there will be bumps in the road. Choose to not let them rattle you.
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Someone needs to be thinking past gas.
Maybe hydrogen is better. It certainly stores
Easier. The tech to burn it is pretty conventional.
It creates water when burned. Either way at
Some point oil runs out. China has starting
Building pebble bed reactors that are pretty much
Meltdown proof. That tech is a good source
of cheap power. Double win, more electricity
and it also can be used to power hydrogen cracking.
Wind and solar can't easily be stored without, you
Guessed it, batteries. But you can use it to crack
hydrogen to use later.
Either way, yes the fools are rushing forward
Without thinking through the issues.
Batteries are the weak link here.
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Mining those rare earth metals burns a LOT of fossil fuel. Electric vehicles built with the batteries are so heavy, it takes more energy to propel them.
And if burning hydrogen produces H2O, that's more water vapor in the atmosphere, and less oxygen, so..."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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This article from two years ago addresses hydrogen as well.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181029130939.htmExpect that there will be bumps in the road. Choose to not let them rattle you.
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I feel depressed now.
It's a problem to be solved, that's all. Not something a politician
Can wave his hand at and fix. Imagine electricity before Tesla and
Westinghouse. Edison's plan sucked. They made it work.
We need a couple of smart guys on this. Not a bunch of
aging hippies."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
I wouldn't worry about the two-electric-car garage catastrophe -- I don't think that's the way it's gonna happen.
The future of many folks' work routine and the future of "personal" transportation is poised, methinks, to change rapidly and revolutionarily.
The former's already changed, and, at least in the northeast, folks are moving away from the cities in droves to places with less dense population and good infrastructure (like... umm... New Hampshire
) to telecommute. Real estate has gone nuts in the exurbs and the countryside, at least up this-a-ways. I have mixed feelings about that, of course -- but the ship's sailed (again, methinks).
The latter old way of working (personally owned and operated vehicles) will transiently change to ride-sharing in the current mode for most folks, and then transition to fleets of roving AI directed electric vehicles that will make good use of their time and battery charge to get people where they want to go when they want to go. Obviously, small contractors and whatnot will still have owner-operated vehicles of some sort (maybe little or no change in the short term for that demographic).
Besides...
One word, Benjamin.
fusion.
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mhardy6647 wrote: »Besides...
One word, Benjamin.
fusion.
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I don't believe electric cares are the answer, just seems like the latest fad for the green energy folks.
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mhardy6647 wrote: »Besides...
One word, Benjamin.
fusion.
Fusion? Like jazz-rock?
I'm puttin my future in Kenny G's hands.
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Robots will also become more and more a part of the work force, and they obviously run on electricity.
I personally worry about a huge solar flare taking out our power grid. We should invest in that infrastructure first and foremost."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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My parents had a red a Pinto. I ran it off the toad into a barbed wire fence when I was 15. But they never...as far as I know.txcoastal1 wrote: »Well it's Texas and we do have big TOADS
... takes a Pinto to run one off.
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I hope the Pinto has good brake lights! You don't want to get slammed in the rear!"This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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I had a 73 Pinto that was rear ended. That was the year they blew up but, mine had the recall done to it with the steel brace around the tank. I paid a 100 bucks for the car and I put plywood floorboards in it. It was orange and white and even had a sunroof. I thought I'd struck gold when the other drivers insurance gave me 1,100 for it.
