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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,437
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    A good friend of mine used "F " every other word. He has no idea he is doing it. Sometimes I mock him and really go overboard on the "F's". He kinda looks at me like I'm part of the clan now. Then later I stop by my my mom's house and I want to say something but I'm terrified to.
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  • Jimbo18
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    How about the use of 'and' in place of 'to'. As in, "I am going to try and buy a new amplifier today". So you and going to try to buy it, and you are going to buy it. What happened to the infinitive (or whatever it's called) 'to'. As in, "I am going to try to buy a new amplifier today".

    I assume 'and' is used so prevalently that it's now considered correct. It's used that way everywhere even in literature.

    Regardless, I try and not use it that way.
  • dromunds
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    Whether or not here I come
  • Toolfan66
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    Irregardless, it’s irrelevant, and irresponsible that I like my ice to unthaw as it’s easier two drank from a Sippy Cup..
  • muncybob
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    jdjohn wrote: »
    Oh no...another one of these threads.

    "I could care less." Really???, there is a margin of care below your current state of care?

    "I know, right?!?" Do you know, or do you NOT know? Don't invite me to join you in your ambiguity.

    Actually, it's "I couldn't care less". LAZY english has transformed it into I could care less. Just like saying "the car needs washed".....too lazy to say needs to be? What passes for english language today is pathetic.
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  • jdjohn
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    muncybob wrote: »
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Oh no...another one of these threads.

    "I could care less." Really???, there is a margin of care below your current state of care?

    "I know, right?!?" Do you know, or do you NOT know? Don't invite me to join you in your ambiguity.

    Actually, it's "I couldn't care less". LAZY english has transformed it into I could care less. Just like saying "the car needs washed".....too lazy to say needs to be? What passes for english language today is pathetic.
    I know. I was providing those two phrases as other examples of butchered English.
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  • mhardy6647
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    EDIT: whoa -- this is a zombie thread.
    Sorry. :#

  • treitz3
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    Now come on now, Jody. We all know that "The car needs warshed" down in the Carolina's is a perfectly normal phrase. They don't butcher English....they decimate it and re-write it.

    I met a guy from Gastonia and he said something that has stuck with me for quite some time. Ya' gotta say it all in one shot, no breaks (even though it's supposed to be a sentence)...I asked him if he could do something one time....

    Iuseta'couldbeabletocain'tno'mo'.

    Translation - "I used to be able to, I cannot anymore"

    Listening to that man speak when he was 3 sheets to the wind required a Master's degree in redneck. He was like a real, live Boomhauer.

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  • maxward
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    Not sure, but the “needs washed” thing could be partly a regional accent. Thinking western New York and Pennsylvania based on someone I know. It was new to me when I met her.
  • mrbigbluelight
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    The word "got"

    "I've got to go to the store".

    Why throw "got" into the mix?
    Instead why not simply say:

    "I have to go to the store".

    Personally I know that I find myself unnecessarily putting "got" into sentences.
    I got to work on that.🤔
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  • mrbigbluelight
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    And the word "Coupon":

    It isn't pronounced "Q-pon".
    It is pronounced "Coo-pon".

    We use Q-Tips in our ears.
    We use "Coo-pons" at the store
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  • Jazzhead
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    How about "loyer" as opposed to "lawyer", despite one attending "law" school to become one.
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  • Jimbo18
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    How about turning 'out' into a verb? My father-in-law laughed when he visited us in Pa. and saw a sign in the local laundromat reading "Do not outen cigarettes on the floor".

    Looked okay to me until he pointed it out.
  • muncybob
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    Outen is more an ethnic term, seems Polish/German folk used that...it has just about outened itself though. Another one in this area was, it's a nice day...hainna or no. I think it's meaning is something like "ain't it or not"?

    Another one that irks me is...I'll do that when I get back...can't you just say return? After years of writing training manuals, desk guides, etc. is perhaps why these things rub me a bit, or maybe I'm just a grumpy ole man....or both?
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  • mhardy6647
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    I had no idea there was such a large cadre of grammarians (or would that be syntacticians?) here!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,047
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    Oh, since it was (sort of) mentioned earlier: I grit my teeth every time I read (typically on a forum or in an eBAY listing) a phrase on the order of "needs repaired", meaning "needs repair" or "needs to be repaired".

    I assume it's a regional thing.
    It doesn't seem to speak well of the educational system of whatever region from which it comes.
    :#

    I mean, I've had my needs repaired several times, but my needs just seem to require yet another repair again after a little while. :p
  • dromunds
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    I’ve had my knees repaired
  • SIHAB
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  • jdjohn
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    treitz3 wrote: »
    I met a guy from Gastonia and he said something that has stuck with me for quite some time. Ya' gotta say it all in one shot, no breaks (even though it's supposed to be a sentence)...I asked him if he could do something one time....

    Iuseta'couldbeabletocain'tno'mo'.

    Translation - "I used to be able to, I cannot anymore"
    I have to admit that I actually used the word 'yoostacood' in a work meeting a few years ago. As in, "We yoostacood do that in our other financial reporting system." Of course, being in Nashville, the only person in the room that noticed was the consultant from Pennsylvania. He paused and asked, "Did you just say 'yoostacood'?" He had never heard that expression before...if you can call it that. I told him I was sorry he had to hear it. My fellow Southerners in the room didn't even bat an eye.
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  • msg
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    But did everyone laugh? I lol'd when I read that.

    I'd've been the the guy from Pennslovakia.
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  • engie490
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    afterburnt wrote: »
    Bohica is a word.

    No, it’s an acronym.

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  • engie490
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    DiddlyD wrote: »
    When I was younger, my mother corrected me when I used the word irregardless saying there was no such word it is just regardless, but she never really explained why. So I get the principle now that the "ir" causes the root word it is attached to flip in meaning, as in the case of responsible vs irresponsible. But if she were here to day, I would now argue her position because it is noted in the Webster Dictionary and therefore recognized even if it's not conforming to the norm of the standard rules. What I would say in it's credit, is when you hear that word spoken, Irregardless really accentuates the root word making a profound statement that just saying a simple tippy toe "regardless" doesn't impart!

    So, what you’re saying is that your Mom is technically correct, but there are so many stupid people out there who are incapable of following the rules of the language, that it is now recognized as a word. Marvelous…

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  • jdjohn
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    msg wrote: »
    But did everyone laugh? I lol'd when I read that.

    I'd've been the the guy from Pennslovakia.
    It's been a while, but I think the PA guy chuckled, but my fellow southern folk just kind of furrowed their brows like, 'What's the big deal...can we continue with the meeting despite this Yankee's insults?'
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  • nooshinjohn
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    Let’s not forget the eternal “cashme ouside”…

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  • treitz3
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    jdjohn wrote: »
    It's been a while, but I think the PA guy chuckled, but my fellow southern folk just kind of furrowed their brows like, 'What's the big deal...can we continue with the meeting despite this Yankee's insults?'

    Yet, when they say. "Let me get a couple-2, tree"...this is normal? Not down South it ain't. What does that even mean?

    Or ask them if they are gonna pick up a 12 pack of beer, and they respond, "Oh, you mean a half rack?"

    NOOOOooooooo, I meant a 12 pack, punk.

    Speaking of ain't.....there is another word.

    Irregardless, I'm down wid'it. :p

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  • muncybob
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    Busy day today, we goin to Ameses.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • OleBoot
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    muncybob wrote: »
    Busy day today, we goin to Ameses.

    We're going grocery shopping at the Acerme.
  • jdjohn
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    How about "not fa nuthin'"? It seems to be a New England term. The only time I've heard it is on a TV show, and the guy is from NYC.
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  • Jstas
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    At a previous location of employ, I was part of an IT security team that spanned the globe. The company spanned the globe as well, so our team was pretty diverse, from multiple countries in multiple regions. Like the British Empire, the sun never set on our security team.

    One year, our manager decided to gather everyone in as central of a locale as we could.

    That central part was Philadelphia.

    One of our team members, Don, was from south London. He had a heavy accent mixed in with lots of street slang like yobbo, git, wanker, spanner, etc. and every other word out of his mouth when we left work was bloody this and bloody that. He was entertaining to listen to. We were all in town for a week and every day at noon and after work he'd say to me "'Sup mate, fancy a pint uv bittah!" which was "Yo, wanna get a beer?" To which I enthusiastically agreed to, often.

    One day, Don wanted to go a "local watering hole, not this posh, bougie stuff the bossman was subjecting us too." "I want a REAL pint of bittah! Mate! A REAL American deal!" So I took everyone to The Dandelion, a legit British Pub in Philly where we ate dinner, watched Simon's rugby match and had the best British ales local American breweries in and around Philadelphia could muster. Simon, Alex and Don were all suitably impressed with the offerings compared to home. However, Don was still dissatisfied.

    So we went to McGillin's Old Ale House. Don was surprised and said "What bloody hole di dey pull dis out uv, mate?" I told him it's the oldest, continually operating tavern in America. Look at the sign, says Est. 1860." He says "Estimate?" and Simon says "No, you wankah, ES TAH BLISHED." Don says "Well, whut are we bloody waiting for?"

    So we go in and we begin to have a great time for the next few hours and drank many beers. Around 10pm our waitress knocked off for the night and the only ones left were the two bartenders and the bar back. We were sitting back in the corner where our cadre of people could take up space without bothering anyone else around us. That and several other co-workers found out where we were and joined us. Around 10:30, one of the bartenders shouts from behind the bar "AY yo! How youse doin' ovah dere? Youse good? Or do youse need sumpfin?"

    Don got wide eyed and thought we were getting yelled at for being too rowdy. I was like "Nah, bro, dude just asked if we needed anything. Our waitress kicked off for the night so anything we need, we gotta go to the bar." Don says "Ah, good mate! The way he was yellin', sounded like he was gonna kick us out!" I was like "Nah, it's all good." Then I shouted back to the bartender "We're all good ova here!" The bartender gives a thumbs up and shouts back "Aight! Iffin youse need anything, youse let me know. Yinz waitress knocked off for the day and the kitchen's closin' in an ahhwah. You want sumpfin to eat affer dat, yinz gotta go to da Acame."

    Don looks at me for a translation and I told him "He said: Brilliant, kind gentleman! Be forewarned that your server has retired for the evening necessitating a trip to the bar for any further orders and libations. The kitchen will be closing in about an hour but the bar will not. If we require sustenance post kitchen closure, we must assail the local market for our victuals."

    Don looks at me like he doesn't know if I'm being a jerk or not and Ron, who's from the midwest, says "Dang, mister! You use your mouth purtier than a two dollar ****!" to which everyone cracks up. Don then tells us the bartender talks funny and asked what kind of accent that was. I was like "Dude, it's Philly accent. Maybe a bit of Bawlmer mixed in there if he grew up south of the city. But if you think he talks funny, that's how you sound to everyone else here!"

    Guess that story isn't as keen over text but in person it was hilarious.
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