B&K Reference 7250ll five channel

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  • fish357
    fish357 Posts: 304
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    Actually, I saw three guys from Indy in a thread about the indy500.
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  • DaveHo
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    I've powered some LSI 15s with a b&k I got off of @scubalab . I think it's a 125.2. Was a great match IMHO. I think you will be happy with that 5 channel b&k powering your LSI set-up
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  • scubalab
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    lightman1 wrote: »
    @indyhawg too

    Al is a putz...

    Shut up Russ! >:)
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  • audioluvr
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    Anyone who thinks Parasound is better than B&K is a fool. They are both great platforms to start the journey. I do know that the Reference 50 matches well with their amps. (Go figure eh?). They also open up with a good tube pre.
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)

    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
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  • fish357
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    I texted the guy about the craigslist amp, no reply. Sigh
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  • fish357
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    @Emlyn and @msg- I did see that other one on eBay, but I can’t justify parting with a cool stack of Benjamin’s right now.
    Have to keep on searching.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
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    scubalab wrote: »
    Check with Dan @EndersShadow - he’s in Indiana, and is the person who ‘persuaded’ me to buy my B&K 200.7. He has (or had) a B&K 200.5.

    I am, and it’s is HAVE. No plans to let it leave unless I find a 200.7 (and I’d still keeep it because).

    I have service manuals and you can buy some parts from ATI for them. I blew a channel in mine and a local repair shop fixed it for about 125 IIRC.

    I keep an AC Infinity S8 fan on top mine to keep air moving through it so it doesn’t get AS warm but it’s fine without.

    Lastly, @lightman1 nailed it @scubalab IS a putz.... :wink:
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • fish357
    fish357 Posts: 304
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    Evenin’ folks, is Sunfire a good brand of amplifier?
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
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    I have a Sunfire TGA-5400 in my home theatre. Bought it new 10 or so years ago, and it still works and sounds good.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
    edited September 2020
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    fish357 wrote: »
    Evenin’ folks, is Sunfire a good brand of amplifier?

    Yes but older Sunfire amps are at and age they really should be refreshed and that can be costly as not just anyone should work on them. Also not sure of parts availability.

    Old being the Cinema Grand models....

    The TGAs should be good for many years.

    If you post a link we can give you better advice as quite a few here have run them.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • audioluvr
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    Oh there's still a few really good refresh tech's out there.
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)

    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
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  • EndersShadow
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    audioluvr wrote: »
    Oh there's still a few really good refresh tech's out there.

    Yes but it’s pricey as it should be (quality costs)... and I don’t know if some parts have become unobtanium.

    Plus none near IN. Rolland (former Sunfire employee) is in WA and not sure who else does those.

    Greg in MI doesn’t do Sunfire, just Carver. Lots of the carver techs won’t touch Sunfire so honestly I’d only trust Rolland off the top of my head. Plus IIRC Rolland has the actual schematics and service upgrade schematics.

    @daddyjt might know...
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • EndersShadow
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    la2vegas wrote: »
    Iirc @daddyjt is also unobtanium. :/

    WTH! When did that happen?
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • rooftop59
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    EndersShadow wrote: »
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Iirc @daddyjt is also unobtanium. :/

    WTH! When did that happen?

    He threw a temper tantrum and quit. Same reason @treitz3 hasn't been around most of the summer.
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  • fish357
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    Audiophiles are a fickle bunch, eh? I don’t know any of these people, you guys realize this, yes? Ha
    Another friend works for a local av place, and has offered to try and get me a new Behringer amp for 300. No idea about any details as of yet.
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  • EndersShadow
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    fish357 wrote: »
    Audiophiles are a fickle bunch, eh? I don’t know any of these people, you guys realize this, yes? Ha
    Another friend works for a local av place, and has offered to try and get me a new Behringer amp for 300. No idea about any details as of yet.
    Pass on it. If you are going pro amp at least go Crown (have both, used both for subs).... still prefer B&K hands down.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • fish357
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    Thanks. I’ve heard of them too, but
    I’m a poor boy with expensive tastes, that’s always been my problem.
    The other problem is that I don’t know good from bad yet.
    Think I’m getting a good idea though.
    I’ll continue to shop for B&K, Parasound, or another one I’ve been eyeballing is Outlaw.
    Any good?
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  • EndersShadow
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    fish357 wrote: »
    Thanks. I’ve heard of them too, but
    I’m a poor boy with expensive tastes, that’s always been my problem.
    The other problem is that I don’t know good from bad yet.
    Think I’m getting a good idea though.
    I’ll continue to shop for B&K, Parasound, or another one I’ve been eyeballing is Outlaw.
    Any good?

    Some brands to look at:

    B&K
    Parasound
    Outlaw
    Anthem
    Rotel
    Carver (if refreshed)
    Sunfire (if TGA or a refreshed Cinema)

    If you have to go pro amp:
    Crown
    QSC

    Avoid:
    Behringer


    What Polks are you driving?
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • fish357
    fish357 Posts: 304
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    I think I mentioned it somewhere, but a pair of LSi25’s, LSiC, and a pair of LSi7’s.
    What do you mean by pro amp?
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  • EndersShadow
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    fish357 wrote: »
    I think I mentioned it somewhere, but a pair of LSi25’s, LSiC, and a pair of LSi7’s.
    What do you mean by pro amp?

    Pro amp means an amp usually used by bands touring.

    Behringer, Crown and QSC are those types of brands.

    What Behringer were you talking about?
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • dromunds
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    You won’t be happy with a pro amp with those speakers
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  • audioluvr
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    fish357 wrote: »
    I think I mentioned it somewhere, but a pair of LSi25’s, LSiC, and a pair of LSi7’s.
    What do you mean by pro amp?

    Amps designed to be played LOUD not for critical listening. As for amps, be patient and stick around, some great deal will eventually fall on to your lap.
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)

    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,556
    edited September 2020
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    Dan,

    Roland never worked at Sunfire afaik.
    I believe you are thinking of Bill. He's excellent, trustworthy and will chat your legs off.
    http://www.flannerysvintageaudio.com/

    Bob Carver gave him everything and he knows them inside out.

    Roland is also excellent more Carver maybe but still I've used him many times. A very busy man and stands behind his work like Bill. Both schooled by Bob Carver

    https://carveraudiorepair.com/hitechaudioltd/workmod.html
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  • fish357
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    audioluvr wrote: »

    Amps designed to be played LOUD not for critical listening. As for amps, be patient and stick around, some great deal will eventually fall on to your lap.

    Oh, I’m in no real rush, I’ve been listening to them this way for seven years.
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