Let's answer Matt's question on SDA

RuSsMaN
RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
edited June 2004 in Speakers
Lets go boys, honest answers.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited May 2004
    I'd buy at any reasonable cost...

    I've never even heaqrd these and I would buy without even thinking twice based solely on what I've heard about the older models.
  • phoneisbusy
    phoneisbusy Posts: 867
    edited May 2004
    You, F1Nut, and others have rave, waxed poetic about the SDAs and that means alot coming from people with a lot more audio experience then myself. Still it'd be nice to hear them for oneself as everyone's audio tastes are different. The most magical set of speakers I've heard was a friends maggies with a sunfire sub. He had it set up and equalized for his room's sweet spot. It'd be nice to compare that experience to the SDA's.

    Maybe Polk should do a magical SDA tour?

    Anyways' I'd vote reasonable price even if I had to save for them. Although listening to them might encourage me to save harder and do without some less essential items like soap...

    regards

    Dave
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  • pixiedave
    pixiedave Posts: 227
    edited May 2004
    Theres to much pro sda propoganda on this site.
    Russ in old threads was a hard core skeptic, now he wont shut up about the dam things. ill save up maybe even unheard
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited May 2004
    I can't vote in this poll. Under $500.00??? No effn way!!!

    What is a reasonable cost, under 5k? Yes, I'd buy them. I mean has anyone looked at the price of high end speakers? They cost a lot of money and 5k is just scratching the surface.
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  • hotwheelman
    hotwheelman Posts: 1,300
    edited May 2004
    I'm just tickled that matt is hearing us, and to know the possibility of sda's being revived again could be on the horizon. Damn I've got w**d just thinking about it.:D
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2004
    im polked out....got other big things to spend cash on....like college lol if i had the cash id definitely buy them though
  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited May 2004
    Price them at whatever, as long as I can use my employee discount. ;)
  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited May 2004
    I they were available in Canada and under $2500CDN I'd definitely want a listen.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited May 2004
    I think a pair of CRS would be under 500 Jesse...

    (I hope)
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited May 2004
    You forgot the choice of ... Yes, I'd buy them and I could give a ratts pubes what they cost ...
  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited May 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    I think a pair of CRS would be under 500 Jesse...

    (I hope)
    Really ? The originals were 11-1200 ... you think the last decade plus has been a deflationary period ?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited May 2004
    Originally posted by PolkWannabie
    You forgot the choice of ... Yes, I'd buy them and I could give a ratts pubes what they cost ...

    Ed Zachary!!!
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2004
    By reasonable I was inferring 'as long as they dont cost as much as a new Toyota'.

    Of course esoteric speakers can demand esoteric prices, but I'm going along the lines of something the 'common man' could afford, or at least put on a card and pay it off in a years time.

    I think $500 reference is a good price point to determine if the R / RTi crowd would be interested. That's pretty much the median price for speakers in those lines.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited May 2004
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    Of course esoteric speakers can demand esoteric prices, but I'm going along the lines of something the 'common man' could afford, or at least put on a card and pay it off in a years time.

    Thats more or less what I was thinking too when I voted.
  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited May 2004
    Personally, I think something under $3k, possibly under $2500, may well be doable if LSi15's can be had for $1600 or less if you look around.

    There's no freakin' way a CRS model could be done for less than the price of a pair of LSi9's.

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2004
    Maybe it would / could be done for less, especially if it didn't use the LSi drivers.

    The basic Peerless soft dome had a retail mark (as of earlier this year) of $26. The Vifa Ring radiator cost twice as much (and doesn't sound any better imo).

    Lots to think about, and no right answer obviously - just typing outloud here.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2004
    These speaks sound great, but with the invesment I've got in on the home theater speakers, buying new fronts is bottom on my list of upgrades.
  • pjdami
    pjdami Posts: 1,894
    edited May 2004
    I'd probably have to save up and buy at a reasonable cost.
    Lets assume the cost of an entry level SDA (1 tweet , 2 mid bass, 1 passive) is around $1600/pair. Tell me, are you willing to pay that much more for a product you havent heard? What if there was no return policy?

    Sean, that is exactly what I did with the LSi 15s. Didn't get a chance to listen to them. Just ordered them and picked them up. Drove nearly 200 miles roundtrip one evening to get them and come back too.

    I still think Polk could pull this off as some kind of "anniversary" special editions just for the fans out there. I'm really itching to hear some SDA. Is 2005 the 20 year anniversary or something? I'm not too familiar with the history of the first SDAs.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2004
    This poll is not very useful. It should contain price ranges: $1,000 - $1,500; $1,500 - $2,000; $2,000 - $2,500; $2,500 - $3,500 and $3,500 plus.

    A poll should include stuff like color options, maximum size, and bundling options (e.g., with an amp, upgraded cables, etc.)

    Polk may also be interested in knowing our on-line buying behavior for audio equipment, which forums we frequent, and what entices us to buy speakers on-line that we've never demoed.

    Since the BIG MAN has asked us, let's respond appropriately by loading Polk up with lots of useful information. Then, in all fairness, Polk would be obligated to give us a definitive response on whether the SDA's are feasible right now. Of course, we're a biased bunch, but I'm sure our opinions will continue to be appreciated.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited May 2004
    Hey, I already bought a set and I scrimped and saved and sacrificed about 2 months worth of lunches just to get them! Don't think I wouldn't do the same for a brand new set of SDA's either! Part of the fun of audio is the anticipation of having the available funds saved up to get that "dream system"!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2004
    SDA them, and they will come.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2004
    Originally posted by Early B.
    This poll is not very useful. It should contain price ranges: $1,000 - $1,500; $1,500 - $2,000; $2,000 - $2,500; $2,500 - $3,500 and $3,500 plus.

    A poll should include stuff like color options, maximum size, and bundling options (e.g., with an amp, upgraded cables, etc.)

    I disagree. If you had $1500 to buy speakers, and the ones you wanted were $2000, you wouldn't scrape up the difference? So where would you vote?

    How about we narrow it down to $50 increments, and get REAL good information.

    The $500 point is about the limit for the 'budget buyer'. Most of the rest of the gang here would probably be 'ok' up to 2 - 2.5K tops.

    I doubt many SDA'ers give a rats-**** about color, and finish. SDA is about SOUND, the rest is just icing on an already delicious cake.

    Polk doesn't make cables or amps (obviously), and they cannot 'bundle' anything together, or endorse a specific brand of amp or cable, due to their agreements with their distributors (who are trying to sell the amps and cables they stock).

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited May 2004
    I agree, if a speaker landed $500 above my price range and I really wanted them, I'd find a way.
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  • ninerbj
    ninerbj Posts: 870
    edited May 2004
    Food for thought.
    I purchased a LSiC and a SVS sub without hearing or seeing. It was marketing by word of mouth and marketing by the companies themselves that drove my decision.
    I am 42 years old and never in a million years did I ever think I would purchase something unseen! But times have changed...these forums and the likes of Audioreview ect have launched little company's with HUGE profits!

    Throw a new pair of SDA's at someone like Wes Phillips and his other cronies...top that with members of this forum spreading the good news on Audioreview, and smile all the way to the bank.

    SDA's made PolkAudio who they (were?) It was the mass market approach while dropping the "high end SD's" that gave Polk that dreaded audiophile snob comment of "mass marketing" *shiver*
    Now don't get me wrong, I don't feel that way...but I have read it enough to know it's been said enough to sway many buyers in another direction.

    Design them as you see fit. Price them as you see fit. If it's anywhere as good as the old SD's, let your plant manager know the production line is about to become overwhelmed with orders!
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited May 2004
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN

    Of course esoteric speakers can demand esoteric prices, but I'm going along the lines of something the 'common man' could afford, or at least put on a card and pay it off in a years time.


    you are the auditor for me :D

    Polk should invest in reviving ideas that have been depreciated:p

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2004
    Like Brettw22 said in the other post. money reigns.... so for me to even seriously consider buying a pair of SDA's ... they would have to be reasonable. maybe not as low as Russ said.. $500. but it would have to be maybe like $2000 for a pair.

    I think that's a good challenge for Polk to consider. YOu can do alot with a price tag of $2000 per pair of speakers.

    Then more people could afford to buy them. That would have to be my limit in terms of how much I am able/willing to spend on a pair of (new) SDA's.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2004
    Hey Polk -- see how this works? The buzz is already being created for a new speaker line that doesn't even exist yet. People are willing to buy it right now.

    So when will design and production begin?
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  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited May 2004
    Polk represents atainable audio perfection for the common man.
    They don't cost $15,000. a pair, and don't have to.

    There is a niche:

    A high quality speaker that many people could afford, even if they have to save a little while, that impresses higher end audiophiles with it's performance, and yet keeps over all value as a cornerstone.
    It was Polks basic philosophy at the start and is still viable.
    Now, with the internet and direct sales posibilities, it's completely do-able.
    As in SVS.
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2004
    Does anyone really know the financials of SVS or HSU? The % of folks that frequent audio boards is miniscule to the entire population of folks that actually buy audio equipment. I really think it would be a money losing venture. That's not to say Polk shouldn't do it. Look at car Dodge putting out Viper's. I think Polk essentially did the same thing with their SRT setup.
  • jrausch
    jrausch Posts: 510
    edited May 2004
    Start them out as Limited edition Lsi flagships fronts. This way you can integrate them with the rest of the Lsi series without creating a new one. Russ this price range would be more realistic. I have no problem with this price. :)
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