Caution Selling Gear - New Scams PSA
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Hey guys, this message is actually coming from Skip (former member here if anyone isn't familiar). This is a bit of a PSA about some newer scams coming up when selling gear online.
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There are some very persuasive scammers right now that you should know about. They seem to target gear in the $3-5k range. Yes, they have gotten me once before for a lot of money. I imagine via credit card fraud.
They pay quickly, they don't haggle on prices, and they follow several steps to keep you feeling secure. They are good at what they do. They may even show an ID or call and talk to you on the phone. These guys are pros and have a network.
There are some red flags to watch out for. A clear indicator is that they will use 'hifi', 'audiophile', or some variant in their email address. They will likely put a down payment and ask to send the rest later. If they call, check the phone number. Check Facebook or other sites for their email address.
Another indicator is the email address does not match the account sending the money. If they show an ID – check the address. Google the shipping addresses and figure out where you are sending gear before you ship. If they get a hold of your gear, you will be in a nightmare to get it back.
Make sure everything lines up. Addresses, names, phone numbers, etc. If you feel like they are a ghost online or anything doesn’t line up it’s likely best to find another buyer.
Don't brush over the red flags without sniffing them out.
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There are some very persuasive scammers right now that you should know about. They seem to target gear in the $3-5k range. Yes, they have gotten me once before for a lot of money. I imagine via credit card fraud.
They pay quickly, they don't haggle on prices, and they follow several steps to keep you feeling secure. They are good at what they do. They may even show an ID or call and talk to you on the phone. These guys are pros and have a network.
There are some red flags to watch out for. A clear indicator is that they will use 'hifi', 'audiophile', or some variant in their email address. They will likely put a down payment and ask to send the rest later. If they call, check the phone number. Check Facebook or other sites for their email address.
Another indicator is the email address does not match the account sending the money. If they show an ID – check the address. Google the shipping addresses and figure out where you are sending gear before you ship. If they get a hold of your gear, you will be in a nightmare to get it back.
Make sure everything lines up. Addresses, names, phone numbers, etc. If you feel like they are a ghost online or anything doesn’t line up it’s likely best to find another buyer.
Don't brush over the red flags without sniffing them out.
Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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eww.
Thanks.
Glad I never actually manage to sell anything
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thanks for the heads up
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displayname wrote: »Hey guys, this message is actually coming from Skip (former member here if anyone isn't familiar). This is a bit of a PSA about some newer scams coming up when selling gear online.
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There are some very persuasive scammers right now that you should know about. They seem to target gear in the $3-5k range. Yes, they have gotten me once before for a lot of money. I imagine via credit card fraud.
They pay quickly, they don't haggle on prices, and they follow several steps to keep you feeling secure. They are good at what they do. They may even show an ID or call and talk to you on the phone. These guys are pros and have a network.
There are some red flags to watch out for. A clear indicator is that they will use 'hifi', 'audiophile', or some variant in their email address. They will likely put a down payment and ask to send the rest later. If they call, check the phone number. Check Facebook or other sites for their email address.
Another indicator is the email address does not match the account sending the money. If they show an ID – check the address. Google the shipping addresses and figure out where you are sending gear before you ship. If they get a hold of your gear, you will be in a nightmare to get it back.
Make sure everything lines up. Addresses, names, phone numbers, etc. If you feel like they are a ghost online or anything doesn’t line up it’s likely best to find another buyer.
Don't brush over the red flags without sniffing them out.
There's a number of comments in there that don't add up.Yes, they have gotten me once before for a lot of money. I imagine via credit card fraud.
Huh, you don't know exactly how you were taken?They pay quickly
Yet.....They will likely put a down payment and ask to send the rest later.
That's not paying quickly.
Etc., etc......
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I appreciate the scam update but we could use more details on how you actually lost the money.displayname wrote: »They will likely put a down payment and ask to send the rest later.
Did you trust them to send the rest of the payment after you shipped it?displayname wrote: »Another indicator is the email address does not match the account sending the money.
How do you know bank accounts from an Email address?
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PayPal e-mail address, I would assume.... How do you know bank accounts from an Email address?
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Just passing the word along guys. If I get answers to your questions I'll happily report back. I've shared everything I know for now.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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displayname wrote: »Just passing the word along guys. If I get answers to your questions I'll happily report back. I've shared everything I know for now.
I feel for ya brother! My take away is be careful! Use PP, or other services that have protection, buy from reputable sites. There are lot's of scammers out there!
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Coming from a retail experience, if someone steals a credit card and buys an item, takes possession of that item... The bank will reverse the charge from the merchant and the person who's card was stolen. The real loser is the merchant. Happened to us a few times at the music store. The most we ever lost was slightly over 3k msrp.
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