Sunfire and Rti

bms
bms Posts: 182
Just checking to see if anyone has experience with the Sunfire Cinema Grand 5 channel amp. Seems to be some confusion on wpc depending on when it was produced.

Would this be a good match for my Rti 10’s, 6’s, and CSi5? Does $750 sound like a reasonable deal?
bms
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Comments

  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    Seems like a decent price. Not sure about wattage discrepancies, but a few here run Sunfire amps. The warmer sound sig should mate well with the RTi series.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Yes and yes.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    Careful Tom or you'll get accused of being blunt.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,021
    Loved my Sunfire Cinema Grand. Wish I'd never gotten rid of it, but I was downgrading at the time and it seemed like a good idea.

    Great sound and was the coolest running amp I've ever had. Good lookin' also. Never paired it with RTi's, but I suspect it would be a good pairing.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • Had one which I sold off recently. I used it to drive CSi A6, FXI A6s, but not the RTi A9s. It has clean power which drove those speakers quite well. Of course, I hooked it up with the center channel and the surround speakers, but still enjoyed the amp in the system. The only reason I sold it was to consolidate two separate amps into one 7-channel amp.

    The Sunfire Cinema ran fairly cold to slightly warm, but not hot at all. I would get it for about 650-700 or so...
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,033
    The wattage discrepancy is this... There is a Cinema Grand with 200/225wpc @ 8ohms or a Cinema Grand Signature at 400/425wpc @8ohm. Both versions double down at 4ohms.

    There is also a Stereo Grand with 300wpc or Stereo Grand Signature @600wpc. The higher powered variants of either line are far more desirable than their lesser powered cousins, because they simply sound much better. I had a 200x5 and did not like it one bit, and I do regret selling the 600/2 and the 425/7 that I had. They were great amps.

    That said, the newer TGA 5200/7201 and the TGA 5400/7401are superior to their counterparts from the Cinema line and given the older ones are now due for being recapped, the TGA line represents a better value IMHO.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    Great info! I hope due diligence is well received. Well done!
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    That said, the newer TGA 5200/7201 and the TGA 5400/7401are superior to their counterparts from the Cinema line and given the older ones are now due for being recapped, the TGA line represents a better value IMHO.

    I have the TGA 5400 in my HT for around 15 years with no issue. A few years ago I moved my previous stereo amps into the HT so now the 5400 only powers the center and rears, but everything plays nice together.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,033
    What’s the LOL for Rooftop?
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,776
    What’s the LOL for Rooftop?

    He thinks you're funny, dipstick. Pay attention.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    That’s interesting. There isn’t a post by Rooftop in this thread that I can see. Nor any post with an LOL in it. Is this another Vanilla issue?
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Operator error. Please reset your operating system and wait for the restart to complete.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Operator error. Please reset your operating system and wait for the restart to complete.

    No difference. Can you quote Rooftop’s post so I can see it?
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Bud, you need some coffee this morning bro'. He doesn't have a post.

    Look at post #7 and hover over the LOL.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2020
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Bud, you need some coffee this morning bro'. He doesn't have a post.

    Look at post #7 and hover over the LOL.

    Tom


    The only post with LOL in it is John’s post asking
    What’s the LOL for Rooftop?

    Hovering over LOL, or clicking on it does nothing.

    That is post 10. Post 7 is John’s post advising to buy the Sunfire TGA gear.

    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Wow. This reminds me of the Black Paint thread. I ain't going through this bullschiff again. I'm out. You figure it out.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,952
    lightman1 wrote: »
    What’s the LOL for Rooftop?

    He thinks you're funny, dipstick. Pay attention.

    Yea I guess after a third whiskey I thought you was a funny guy! 😂😂😂
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    BlueFox wrote: »
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Operator error. Please reset your operating system and wait for the restart to complete.

    No difference. Can you quote Rooftop’s post so I can see it?

    *smacks forehead*