Underpowered?
I just purchased a pair of Polk S60 speakers and I’m powering them with a Yamaha RX-V575 and I can’t seem to get the bass that I heard at the store so I’m wondering if the receiver is underpowered.
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How were they setup at the store and in what size room? How are they setup at your house and in what size room?
i.e. Corner loaded, packed in line with a bunch of other speakers at Best Buy, etc.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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How big is your room, what genre instore and at home
That receiver isn’t doing them any justice2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
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Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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What were they playing at the store versus what you are playing and what is your source? (Vinyl, SACD, CD, MP3, network Audio, etc)
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I’m using vinyl and the USB port.
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Have you set the receiver back to factory settings? Sometimes folks mess with them so much, they forgot what they have done. While Txcoastal1 is correct, let's see if we can make the best of what you have first.
The more information you give us, the more we can help you. Everyone will need their questions answered in order for all of us to help you. FWIW.
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I’m using vinyl and the USB port.
Signal current input or setting issue
Do you have a bluray or DVD player in the house and a couple of CDs?
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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How were they setup at the store and in what size room? How are they setup at your house and in what size room?
i.e. Corner loaded, packed in line with a bunch of other speakers at Best Buy, etc.
Also the setup at Best Buy also has a Sub hooked up...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
His basement is 25x22, pretty big.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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The AVR is rated at 80W with two channels driven. Okay for video in a small room, but might not have the grunt for music in a large room.
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-v575/specs.html
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Thank you, that’s what I was concerned about. Any recommendations on how much grunt I need ?
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Well, you can go one of two routes. Either get a beefier AVR (Receiver) or augment what you currently have with a decent sub. Do you have a preference?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I’m leaning towards a new receiver for one reason, the S60’s seems to have enough punch. Your thoughts.
Leo
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It's not my system. This is completely up to you.
With that said, if you feel that the mid frequencies (vocals) and upper frequencies (treble) are at a loud enough volume but the snare drums, doors slamming, and the upper spectrum of the lower octaves of the speakers need help? A new receiver may just do the job. Get a high current one. Don't pay so much attention to watts.
With that said, if you feel that the mid frequencies (vocals) and upper frequencies (treble) are at a loud enough volume but the aforementioned is good for you and you just want to "feel" a door slam, a kick drum, an organ or bass guitar? Then simply consider a good sub to help augment. I would not personally look for any other type of sub other than a servo sub, regardless of the brand.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I’m leaning towards a new receiver for one reason, the S60’s seems to have enough punch. Your thoughts.
Leo
What you really need is a receiver with preouts and a solid external amp, or maybe a really beefy avr. Depending on budget, I would recommend the former. @mrloren has experience with this...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
In the OP case I'd reset the AVR to factory and start over the setup again.
What speaker wire is being used?
If the store was playing demo tracks and it was bass heavy that is because it was mixed that way. Try different sources, CD, DVD, Blu-Ray, FM Radio. A USB input is not going to have the greatest sound to it.
The S60 is a very good speaker I played mine for hours without a sub, they did sound good, add a sub and they sound better.
Yes to a better AVR, that Yamaha is an entry level AVR. A Marants, Devon AVR-X---
or the bigger Yamaha would work very well
Sub add a good sub in the mix, SVS or HSU. A sub will take the stress of the low end off the AVR.
AMP, I added a Emotive BASX-A300 and the signatures opened up nice. More power is always better than too little.
When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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Get a good integrated amp or separates to get the best results for music. AVR's are for home theater.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Yep.
