Would a drum work as a speaker cabinet

I have two bass drum wood frames ( no drum heads) from a drum set , that I was thinking of making into speaker cabinets . Actually just woofer cabinets . They are hand crafted I believe. Beautiful Raw wood . No finish. So basically it would be a cylinder . Would this work well as a cabinet?

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,363
    edited August 28 Accepted Answer
    ericerik wrote: »
    WOW!! now thats pretty wild. were is the rest of the organ?? thats a audio system for a person who has everything.
    im thinking a sub... but i think i will pass on the giant tubes . also have a pair of tom toms. thinking of using those for pair full range.

    That would be Nelson Pass :)
    He's rather well known for his amplifiers and preamplifiers :) but he's also dabbled in loudspeakers during his long and storied career. He, famously, once ended up hospitalized from ozone toxicity during development of a wide-range plasma loudspeaker :( That little issue with ozone formation is why Hill Plasmatronics used helium rather than room air for their wide-range plasma loudspeakers :p
    https://www.stereophile.com/content/hill-plasmatronics-type-1-loudspeaker

    Nelson then:

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    Nelson now (-ish):

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    ahem, back on topic :# ...
    Speaking of tom toms, there was a briefly fashionable fullrange driver from a Thai company called Norh (heh, that's horn spelled backwards B) ) that used some sort of hollowed out gourd style drum design ("Thai long drum", http://www.norh.com/Norh_Loudspeakers/About_Us.html) as its enclosure. I guess they're still around and still making speakers and electronics...

    http://www.norh.com/Norh_Loudspeakers/Products.html

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  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    Yes very similar. But shorter in length. Was planin on keeping the apperence of a drum . With legs on the sides etc .
  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    So basically, Im not the first person to try this. And it seems fun to try. If and when I can get started I post some pics. And more advise will be needed .
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,734
    edited August 25
    Driver selection and isobaric design will be your focus. If it's a standard 24x20 kick drum design, you'll want a larger driver to work well in that volume. First things first, work to make the shell acoustically inert, then measure for internal volume and chose a driver based on that new number.

    I'm invisioning a 4th order bandpass configuration, and using the front drone head port hole as the outlet.
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,651
    ericerik wrote: »
    And more advise will be needed
    Just search google for DIY Sonotube subwoofer for help. Many projects are out there.



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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,363
    WLDock wrote: »
    ericerik wrote: »
    And more advise will be needed
    Just search google for DIY Sonotube subwoofer for help. Many projects are out there.

    El-Pipe-O, baby :)

    http://www.firstwatt.com/pdf/art_elpipeo.pdf

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    El-pipe-os providing the bass foundation for a small pair of full-range, single driver back-loaded horns (the Kleinhorns) at, presumably, Mr. Pass's abode.

    :)

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    (ok, looks like he added some planar 'supertweeters', too...)
  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    WOW!! now thats pretty wild. were is the rest of the organ?? thats a audio system for a person who has everything.
    im thinking a sub... but i think i will pass on the giant tubes . also have a pair of tom toms. thinking of using those for pair full range.
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,651
    ericerik wrote: »
    . also have a pair of tom toms. thinking of using those for pair full range.

    Its interesting that you are considering turning drums into speakers as some use speakers to mic their kick drum. It can be hard to get the natural low end kick from a regular mic. Some use subkick mics, regular mics with a speakers mic, etc.


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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,363
    edited August 28
    ^^^ Good, and interesting, points.

    Yeah, the trick with percussive bass is to get both the boom and the thwack.

    A famous, rather extreme example was the recording of real field artillery in the (in)famous early digital recording by Telarc of Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture (Kunzel/Cincinnati SO).

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    I remember reading in one of the hifi rags at the time that the recording engineers struggled to get "believable" sounding cannon. Close miking resulted in an unimaginably loud "pop" -- so they ended up mixing the output of a (relatively) near-field mic and another mic placed a good distance away from the artillery. Mixed together, these resulted in the infamously hard to track LP recording much beloved of audiophiles then and still today :)

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  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,824
    Cool 1812 album history
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  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    i agree. that was one the things i miss from back in the day. the album cover. artwork, pics etc. all for $5.99!
  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    thats some great info , thnx to "mhardy" i believe referring to nelson pass "s research of a protoplasmic tweeter in the sixties? seems a few audiophiles made good use of the psychedelics back in the day! surely there was more being inhaled other than helium.. lmao! seriously tho, thats some great stuff. i appreciate everybody input and knowledge. maybe my "motionless speaker" still has a chance.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,363
    plasma, not protoplasm :)

    Not to lead the OP further astray -- but there are also the famous bucket subs.
    Consider this as a design concept for your drumspeakers ;)

    https://www.transcendentsound.com/bucket-sub.html

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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,651
    edited August 29
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    ^^^ Good, and interesting, points.

    Yeah, the trick with percussive bass is to get both the boom and the thwack.

    A famous, rather extreme example was the recording of real field artillery in the (in)famous early digital recording by Telarc of Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture (Kunzel/Cincinnati SO).

    jk8fzwl27u1f.png

    I remember reading in one of the hifi rags at the time that the recording engineers struggled to get "believable" sounding cannon. Close miking resulted in an unimaginably loud "pop" -- so they ended up mixing the output of a (relatively) near-field mic and another mic placed a good distance away from the artillery. Mixed together, these resulted in the infamously hard to track LP recording much beloved of audiophiles then and still today :)

    25o8h58ruhp7.png

    I've played it in concerts band but the most fun was playing it in college in Mich State Univ. Spartan marching band. The bells at the end were broadcast through the stadium PA but the cannons and fireworks were blocks away done by a military unit and fireworks crew. It was boombastic! I remember the guy that carried the large bass drum aquired a large large wood head mallet just for the piece. He was hitting it so hard that he put major dents in the heads...almost busting them. Waay back in '84, my freshman year.... fun times.

    The 1812 Overture starts at 14:09 via this link - https://youtu.be/TVLlz_0bfxk?t=849

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  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    Wow. We have a lot in comon . i too was a freshman in colloge. But in 1985! I went to small liberal arts colloge in ohio called colloge of wooster. Decent music dept consideriing.. And plenty of memories of various events . . .
  • ericerikericerik Posts: 53
    Wow. We have a lot in comon . i too was a freshman in colloge. But in 1985! I went to small liberal arts colloge in ohio called colloge of wooster. Decent music dept consideriing.. And plenty of memories of various events . . .
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