Opinions on deck stains

Need to stain the deck. 5/4 cedar decking. Most is older wood but replaced a bunch of rotten boards so it's a mix. Pressure washed and ready to go.
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  • fastz28fastz28 Posts: 647
    bears higher end stain 5 gallons $175
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,489
    Avoid this if they still make it. My Dad made the mistake of using it and it peeled within 6 months. There were so many complaints that there was a lawsuit.

    https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/closed-settlements/856904-behr-deckover-resurfacer-class-action-settlement/
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  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 7,463
    fastz28 wrote: »
    bears higher end stain 5 gallons $175

    DeckOver? Have you used it? Supposedly works well but sounds like a pain to apply.
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  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 7,463
    Hermitism wrote: »
    Avoid this if they still make it. My Dad made the mistake of using it and it peeled within 6 months. There were so many complaints that there was a lawsuit.

    https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/closed-settlements/856904-behr-deckover-resurfacer-class-action-settlement/

    Beat me to it. Hadn't seen that. Thank God, we were leaning toward it....
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,489
    edited August 13
    He originally used a tinted sealer a long time ago on another deck and it just faded away over time. I liked it a lot, there were a variety of colors to choose from and it just tinted the wood and eventually disappeared with no chipping or peeling. But the solid color stains have always scared me ever since that happened to him.

    Somewhere on here is a another thread about deck stains because I remember mentioning that lawsuit. Let me see if I can find it.
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,489
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,651
    edited August 13
    I used almost 5 gallons to do all the railings of Deckzilla:
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    While it is cheaper to buy in bulk, I went with single gallons because it is easier to stir frequently and less messy. I used both the thin roller thingy and several brushes since the stair penetrates better than spraying. It was a complete PITA but worth it.
  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,651
    Oh....and that Deckover stuff completely blows. It reminds me of the paint and primer in one garbage they used to sell!
  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 6,892
    edited August 13
    You would not use deckover on a cedar deck, anyways. Beats the purpose of having a Cedar deck covering it up with that thick goop. If you replaced the bad boards with new Cedar Boards there will be quite a difference in color so a transparent stain would be out of the question.

    I would use a semi solid stain from Cabot, you will cover the difference between the shades of new and old boards with still seeing the grain. Any deckover product is junk and wont last.

    I have been dicking around with my deck for 20 years replacing all boards staining, restaining after a couple of years. Replacing boards that cracked or warped I hate treated lumber then restaining again it's a viscous cycle. Not wanting to do the deck again after the umpteenth time I let it go last year and most of this summer.

    I just dropped a big chunk of cash for a new Azek maintenance free deck and glad I did I got tired of getting the power washer out and doing the every 2 year ritual. Good luck with your staining project. Cabot or Behr semi solid is the brands I had the best luck with, but the wife wanted a new deck and she got what she wanted. I wont be getting any new gear for a while though.
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  • fastz28fastz28 Posts: 647
    avoid all DECK OVER products!!! A good power washing, a good sanding, and replacing bad boards, and using a regular solid stain or semi-transparent stain
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  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 5,170
    We just finished ours. We used a stripper with a power wash, a cleaner with a power wash and then 2 coats with Behr solid stain. It’s perfect.
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,503
    Here's a how to video...

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  • GospelTruthGospelTruth Posts: 364
    My dad used to work in the paint/stain industry and by far the best stuff we ever used was Rymar. We used to do testing compared to other products and they just outlasted them by a wide margin.

    https://www.rymarindustries.com/products/xtreme-weather/

    Not cheap, but in my opinion you get what you pay for. This stuff may last 10 years where another is only 3 years. You figure your time and having to reapply 3 times vs. one time and the cost becomes mute. This is just an example, and the amount of time Rymar will last will depend on your location and weather. Same goes for any other product mentioned though.

    Regardless of what product you use, in my opinion I would suggest the following:
    • On a deck, use semi-transparent. Solids don't hold up as well to the foot traffic, but this is still your preference.
    • Never use clear as it will never last as long and having a pigment helps block the UV. If you want a clear, try to find a semi-transparent that is as close to the color of the natural wood you are using and use that instead.
    • In my opinion, stay away from CWF and other Flood products.
    • Make sure the stain you are using is for a deck. I know this sounds like common sense, but I've seen people use Cabot's siding stain on a deck and wonder why it doesn't hold up to foot traffic.

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