Denon 4500 or Pioneer Elite SC-LX701?
dromunds
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Recently, I posted a question about my buddy's new HT set-up, the one where he wants to put the new Sony XBR TV across the room from his gear stack. Anyway, its apparent he needs to update his receiver, he's looking at the Denon X4500H (or the X4400H) or the Pioneer Elite SC-LX701. The price of these units at Accessories4Less is about his budget. Anybody have any comments on which is preferable? Any other suggestions? He doesn't like the new Yamaha house sound, in fact he loves the sound of his current Pioneer Elite SC-05, but the Denon seems to have several things he likes such as a 3-year warranty for A4L, and he's a bit unsure of the newer Pioneer gear since the merger, but he doesn't know if that's a legitimate concern. Any thoughts? Let me know if any more facts needed. He'll be running Polk LS50's and perhaps a LS350 center with who knows what as surrounds, etc. Mostly music but also a good share of movies I would think. By the way, what's the difference between the Denon 4400 and the Denon 4500?
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I have heard that pioneer quality has taken a hit, but I don’t have a verified source on that. But the denon is a really good receiver, and for that much coin I would go with what I have some certainty of...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Thanks, can you tell me what the Denon 4500 has that the 4400 does not?
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Oh I don’t know about that. I am totally satisfied with my 4200w!Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
It seems A4L only has the 4400 and 4500 in stock - but you can have them let you know when the 4300 will be back in stock.
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Wow talk about making a new receiver for NO reason. Check out the comparison. I can’t find a SINGLE substantive difference: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-qNjBo92ThxB/compare_033AVX4400_033AVX4500/Denon-AVR-X4400H-IN-Command-vs-Denon-AVR-X4500H.html?XVINQ=DST&XVVER=Z02&awcp=1t1&awcr=164117885657&awdv=m&awkw=&awmt=b&awnw=g&awug=9027503&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3uboBRDCARIsAO2XcYBRe4e1YMmWinEGzxL5Y4XF4qJSmy-w-BfHk_so4mIycHMa5rZbkLIaAoCDEALw_wcB
I would definitely go with the 4400 if it’s cheaper...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
It looks like on A4L 3-year warranty on the 4500 but only 1 year on the 4400, but you can purchase two additional year warranty for $39 (or additional years). I see something about IMAX effect on the 4500, otherwise I don't see much difference except the 4400 is apparently a model year older? The 4400 is about $150 cheaper on A4L
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You will probably find that the only difference is that that added a couple of new codecs that are now standard.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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I've been happy with my 4400HWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
Thanks y’all
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I have always liked both Denon and Pioneer. However Pioneer Elite is another level. This is Pioneer's best stuff.
