Inside of AQ.Niagara 5000
joecoulson
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So I have been curious (even though there are pics online) to take a peek inside the Audioquest Niagara 5000. So all I needed was a push from @JayCee
Here they are:
Here they are:
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Cool pics
I guess the big question about the pics after following the circuits, and maybe someone much more intelligent than I, is whats in the sealed tube to the right where the HOT filters through2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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That’s definitely a question for someone who is above my pay grade.
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Could perhaps be harnessing the power of the bazooka tube to draw out the um, lower mid bass.
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Hexafluoriethylene metabolic gas notice the silicone.
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2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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So it is for Transient Power Correction:
Our correction circuit bolsters and stabilizes the power supply of any power amplifier by providing a buffer and an instant current reservoir of up to 80 amps peak (20mS). -
I see lots of relays and commonly used baluns, which are good devices. I like how they have routed the wires, shows attention to detail.Our correction circuit bolsters and stabilizes the power supply of any power amplifier by providing a buffer and an instant current reservoir of up to 80 amps peak (20mS).
Sounds like a bank of capacitors. Well not any amp, my he-man amp is capable of 160 amp peaks, which is why it's plugged into the wall.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Which amp Jesse?
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MF kW500Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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I always wanted a pair of those 700/750 which ever those monos were back in the day. They were monsters from what I remember.
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I am very disappointed the power outlets are all connected by just sicking a wire into the little spring loaded holes in the back. If you ever removed a wire from a connection like that you will see it has very little contact area. Just the edge of a thin copper spring digging into the side of the wire. I know it would be more labor to secure them correctly using the screws but at this price level it should be done right.
I always preferred wrapping the wire around one of the screws and cranking it down tight. Has to be better. When I replaced my audio receptacle with a hospital grade one I saw all of the outlets in my house were wired by just sticking the wire into a very cheap plugs. After attaching the hospital receptacle using the screws I reconnected every other receptacle on the line by using the screws. Not sure if it made a difference but knowing the connections are secure lets me sleep better at night. -
They're probably not the shove in compression type connections. The screw still compresses a piece of metal against the wire.
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They're probably not the shove in compression type connections. The screw still compresses a piece of metal against the wire.
That's correct. IMO even better and certainly easier than trying to wrap large gauge wire around the screw.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Looks like 12 gauge wire. Are the outlets 20 amp?Political Correctness'.........defined
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The 4 on the left designated high current are:
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I agree, unless tinned properly the strands of wire will compress unevenly. Stray strands will often float loosely from underneath the screw, and, will cause uneven compression across the width of the wire. You'd be better off using a spade connector instead of looping the wire around the screw. -
Certainly doesn’t look like shove in type. If you’ve ever owned a quality audiophile outlet, then you already know the answer.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Pretty sure those stab in Chinese handcuff like outlets/switches have been out of the market for years. It's been decades since I've seen any new.
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Especially in a $4k conditioner.
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Thanks for popping the hood Joe! Very interesting. Does look like a quality build.
This guy's got me intrigued. Ferroelectric Chamber, akin to the Shunyata?
Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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I have a similar unit in my Furman pc. I've read that it's a large storage capacitor that's similar to the starting capacitor on the top of large electric motors. It provides short term instantaneous current for high current amps.
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Certainly doesn’t look like shove in type. If you’ve ever owned a quality audiophile outlet, then you already know the answer.
That closeup picture clears things up. The connection is OK. The other pictures did have me wondering.
So I was mistaken........Nice dig but why do you assume I never owned a quality audiophile outlet? The Hubbell hospital grade receptacle I used did not have the option to connect like on the power conditioner. Or is this receptacle considered hack and not audiophile?
So maybe I am ignorant. How much do you have to pay to get an audiophile outlet? And are you sure they all have this alternate wiring option? -
Certainly doesn’t look like shove in type. If you’ve ever owned a quality audiophile outlet, then you already know the answer.
That closeup picture clears things up. The connection is OK. The other pictures did have me wondering.
So I was mistaken........Nice dig but why do you assume I never owned a quality audiophile outlet? The Hubbell hospital grade receptacle I used did not have the option to connect like on the power conditioner. Or is this receptacle considered hack and not audiophile?
So maybe I am ignorant. How much do you have to pay to get an audiophile outlet? And are you sure they all have this alternate wiring option?
I didn’t assume anything. And I believe my Leviton hospital grade outlets that I still use on two of the 3 dedicated lines to my gear hook up the same way. My furutech outlet which is gold plated was around 60 bucks. Expensive but not outrageous.
2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
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They may very well be stab in type, but, I would seriously doubt that in such a quality piece. I haven't seen those type receptacles in a while. Will occasionally run across them doing rework, but, I never see them come in to the plant or in stores. Though I will admit I don't browse the store shelves much these days.
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I was mistaken in my first post that it was a spring loaded push in connection and I later admitted it. I never saw a receptacle with that kind of connection and it had me scratching my head. There was never a question the power conditioner was quality and it didn't make sense! Thanks to the people who explained it to me.
I only replaced a few outlets with Hubbell hospital grade receptacles and they did not have that connection option. So while I have only dipped my toes into "semi-audiophile" plugs that connection was not obvious to me. So I guess I didn't know the answer. -
It's ok.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Those outlets have a death grip that ripped a ground lug off a 70$ furutech plug. So watch out for that hahaha2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.
