Phono Pre Amp

Title says it all....thanks

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  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 492
    Not sure what your budget is, but everyone I know that has a Sutherland is extremely happy with theirs, myself included. You see several Vibes show up as open box or lightly used because people move further up the line.
    Also saw some active listings on usaudiomart. Not affiliated so I won’t link, but worth looking into.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > JBL Studio 580 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,645
    edited June 7
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    Title says it all....thanks
    • Are you aiming high, low, or just looking for something that will work?
    • Vacuum tube or soiled solid state?
    • Adjustable gain (e.g., to accommodate low output MC as well as MM/MI)?
    • Adjustable loading?
    • Onboard P/S, wall wart, or battery?
    • Budget?

    so many options in 2019! :p
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,051
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    [*] Vacuum tube or soiled solid state?
    Look at you showing such restraint! :D
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • voltzvoltz Posts: 5,303
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    Title says it all....thanks
    • Are you aiming high, low, or just looking for something that will work?
    • Vacuum tube or soiled solid state?
    • Adjustable gain (e.g., to accommodate low output MC as well as MM/MI)?
    • Adjustable loading?
    • Onboard P/S, wall wart, or battery?
    • Budget?

    so many options in 2019! :p

    This the Doctor is in the House!!! with some very good advise!!!
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,645
    edited June 7
    believe it or not, I use a solid state phono preamp. A pretty darned good one, at that.

    10978656836_fe7215588b_b.jpgJLTiphonopreamp by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Designed by the late Allen Wright.
    http://www.vacuumstate.com/

    Later versions were a bit more "audiophile" looking, and didn't have a word about cryogenetics printed on 'em, either! :)

  • voltzvoltz Posts: 5,303
    For awhile I gave up on Tube Phono amps. the cartridges are like open mikes anyways and I was chasing ghost to remove unwanted noise from my Vinyl system..was it a tube that had to much microphones?

    if you tapped the stand my TT was on you would hear it in the speakers etc...but I finally found my Vincent phono amps where really quite with the right cables! but I was getting frustrated to no end trying to tame the beast!
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 852
    I’ve got a Parasound jc3 and have been very happy. Great unit and I don’t really pay any attention to it.
    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, 2 REL Carbon Limited, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Technics RS-1500, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection (Furutech) Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection (Furutech) Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables
    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Vizio M-75
    Office
    Teac NP-H750, Parasound Ztuner, Audio Engine P4N, Grado SR80, Grado iGrado, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, PC running High Rez files
    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"
    Bed Room
    Yamaha YSP-5100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 70"
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,377
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    believe it or not, I use a solid state phono preamp. A pretty darned good one, at that.

    10978656836_fe7215588b_b.jpgJLTiphonopreamp by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Designed by the late Allen Wright.
    http://www.vacuumstate.com/

    Later versions were a bit more "audiophile" looking, and didn't have a word about cryogenetics printed on 'em, either! :)

    Are those loading plugs? Interesting
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,104
    I have a Pro-Ject Tube Box S boxed up somewhere. I barely used it when I went through my “trying to fall in love with vinyl” phase. It’s pretty versatile (from what I understand), and will never see use with me.

    If you have any interest, I’ll dig it out and snap some photos...
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,645
    dromunds wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    believe it or not, I use a solid state phono preamp. A pretty darned good one, at that.

    10978656836_fe7215588b_b.jpgJLTiphonopreamp by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    Designed by the late Allen Wright.
    http://www.vacuumstate.com/

    Later versions were a bit more "audiophile" looking, and didn't have a word about cryogenetics printed on 'em, either! :)

    Are those loading plugs? Interesting

    yup.
  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,830
    I was amazed the the difference a Parasound PPH-100 mode vs the internal phono stage of my various amps and receivers. These include Denon DRA-835R, Marantz PM-5005 and Parasound CPT-600. The Parasound Zphono is the follow-on improvement to the PPH-100. These can be had very affordably.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade), Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7; Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,645
    edited June 9
    skrol wrote: »
    I was amazed the the difference a Parasound PPH-100 mode vs the internal phono stage of my various amps and receivers. These include Denon DRA-835R, Marantz PM-5005 and Parasound CPT-600. The Parasound Zphono is the follow-on improvement to the PPH-100. These can be had very affordably.

    Not to change the subject (i.e., poor OP's lookin' for a phono preamp!)... :)

    So -- first and foremost, I don't disagree with @skrol; the breadth of high quality outboard phono preamps available today is unprecedented!

    I just wanted to mention that seekers of good quality inexpensive phono preamps just might want to try the phono section of a 1970s-1980s preamp, integrated amp, or even (gasp) FM stereo receiver! Phono was the default "audiophile" medium in those days; the phono sections in components of that era were often pretty darned good sounding. Now, I'll grant you that 40 year old components are probably not at their best B) but a cheap (!) vintage massmarket component's phono section might still outperform a brand-new-fresh modern add-on phono preamp at a similar price point.

    Try one, you might like it. :)

    PS the amplified, EQ'd line level output of the phono preamp is available on virtually any 1970s-on vintage component via said component's tape out jacks.


    14815716390_34aebd4c3e_b.jpgDSC_9835 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr



  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,784
    I was looking here on the forum first so I kept it vague....I would say the only budget is only restraint at around 350.00. I am also thinking SS as my pre is a tubed and may want to get too " tubey" if that makes sense.
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 492
    At $350 I think I'd be looking at Vincent and MoFi. Possibly some others, but those are the first 2 that come to mind.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > JBL Studio 580 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • pglbookpglbook Posts: 1,789
    edited June 9
    Great point, mhardy. I can tell you from experience that the the phono stage in my vintage Yamaha CR 2020 receiver sounded better than the Cambridge Azur 640P-S phono pre I am currently using. Spinning vinyl sounded so much better when I had the Yamaha CR 2020 in the mix. I now have separate components and will have to upgrade my phono pre.

  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,725
    I would ask what cart it is to be paired with? Might make a difference for some recommendations
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
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