Momo 12 vs 12w7

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Systems
Systems Posts: 14,873
edited September 2004 in Car Subwoofer Talk
is the MM124 sub hit harder and catch low bass notes like the Jl Audio 12w7?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    the w7 will get much louder and has better sound quality than the momo
    but itll cost ya out the ****...
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited May 2004
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    Will a Civic be faster and better built than an M3?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    yeah, i found the w7 on onlinecarstereo.com for $600
    you can find the momo on sounddomain.com for $180 in an enclosure
    not exactly a fair comparison
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • LittleCar_w/12s
    LittleCar_w/12s Posts: 568
    edited May 2004
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    Well, if you erase MOMO from the sub maybe it'd sound as good... those letters are holding back all the performance, weighting down the cone, I say :p
    True, MM vs a $600 W7 isn't a fair comparison.
    -Jerry
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited May 2004
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    From what I've heard, they both have a history of breaking though :)

    Its one of those apples and oranges things... JL has lines that are higher up than Polk. Polk has stuff that is great for the price, but doesn't seem like they're trying to break into the "upper" market.
    Brian Knauss
    ex-Electrical Engineer for Polk
  • LittleCar_w/12s
    LittleCar_w/12s Posts: 568
    edited May 2004
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    At least not for us car-audio dweebs... Maybe they just think we don't care about quality in our cars... like were lower-class than audiophiles :rolleyes:
    Oh well....
    --Jerry
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    Total cost of materials: Going up...
    Time spent: Countless Hours...
    Cranking the system, having it quiet outside the car, and sound that takes the rear-view off inside: PRICELESS

    For some things in life, you pay others to do it... For a masterpeice, do it yourself.
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited May 2004
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    Originally posted by kuntriboi
    is the MM124 sub hit harder and catch low bass notes like the Jl Audio 12w7?

    A better comparison would be the W3V2 and thats iffy IMO.....
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited May 2004
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    Hey don't underestimate the momo by ANY means.... its wierd that apparently some people's mm12s sound terrible, don't hit low, yadyadayada... but i must have gotten lucky and got about the most amazing mm12 ever built... my friends brother has TWO W6v2 12"'s in his car in a ported enclosure, not the absolute best stuff, but up high on the scale

    and long story short... its hard to tell teh difference between my single mm12(in its custom enclosure) in my VW 02 GTI than his two w6v2's in his 4 runner.....

    this could be possibly b/c in my gti we're a lot closer to the sub

    it could also be that his enclosure is tuned incorrectly

    but either way, the fact remains that he dumped about $1300 into his subs, amp box etc alone, while i only paid a whole like 300 or so fo my subs amp wiring.... so just keep my opinion in mind....


    and btw a w7 vs a mm12, theres no comparison, the w7 will blow the mm12 away
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited May 2004
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    Originally posted by exalted512
    the w7 will get much louder and has better sound quality than the momo
    but itll cost ya out the ****...
    -Cody

    I've got 2 MM2104's in the trunk of my stang in a .75 (x2) cu. ft. q-logic box. Pushed with Alpine MRD-M500 benched at 581w RMS into 2ohms. They sound "ok"..

    Pulling the MM2104's, putting 'em in my son's integra (he has 2x10" Alpine type-E's) with 300 w/rms (we tried it already - a nice improvement).

    Gonna replace the 2 MM2104's with a single 12w7. I'm thinking I'll hear/feel a difference...even with the reduced power (581wRMS at 2ohms vs. around 400w RMS at 3 ohms).

    Gotta build me a box this weekend - sealed (drat) because of limited trunk space...

    I'm not knocking the MM2104's - they were GREAT for the price - but for $360 for the 2-month-old w7, I can't go wrong <g>
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    unless you planning on upgrading the amp, id probably stick with the momo's
    i mean the w7 has a huge x-max compared to the momo's, but with MORE power and MORE surface area, im not sure if youll hear/feel a difference at all
    id put it in a big box if youre only running that much power
    i can ask around if you would like to see what other people who have w7s think(how big the box should be with that amount of power)
    and plus $360 is still a rip for a used sub without a warranty(Well, i assume its out of warranty)
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    this sub is a better sub, its new, warranty, and its yours for $9 more than the w7
    no shipping and handling fees and no tax(well...i dont think theres tax)
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited May 2004
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    yeah, there probably is.

    hey cody, you should get the 2-brahma package! :D
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    yeah, im going to get 2 10s
    usa-3000
    1500 watts per sub...
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited May 2004
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    when you gonna have em?
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    ill have the brahmas hopefully by september
    the amp will be like the year after some time, it all depends on money
    i can build a box thatll make the brahmas plenty loud for now
    it all depends on money really...the money for the brahmas has already been put aside
    but im getting a new truck next summer
    im going to be putting a lift on it
    then ill be replacing the gears and adding a locking differential to the back
    plus i want to shave the handles on the truck and tint/alarm
    then ill have to get a better alternator
    then the usa-3000...lol
    not a huge priority right now
    buts its on the list of mods for the future truck...you should see the **** im going to do to this truck...its going to sick
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited May 2004
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    hmm, just a thought... the same retarded little birdie that's been **** me over recently (see below for another story) told me that they heard a w7-based system. it apparently had 3 12w7's... and sucked... now, i don't know whether to believe them, but it's a good laugh nevertheless.

    story time - yeah, so i got bored this weekend and took my passenger door apart. i got all the paneling off after about an hour, and there was a very thin layer of foam underneath, presumably for some semblance of dampening. fine. so, what the idiotic little birdie had done is put the dynamat extreme i bought on top of this foam, instead of on the door frame where it should have been. so, that money did a whole lot of nothing. does anyone know of a way to move dynamat? so i can put it in the right spot?
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
  • AustinKP
    AustinKP Posts: 861
    edited May 2004
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    That sucks neo. I hope you can find a way to get that off. That stuff is too expensive to waste. Would a heat gun maybe work?
    http://www.silverdragon.com/punkie/cybertusk/net.idiot.html - Read it, know it

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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2004
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    extreme sticks REALLY good
    id say heat gun if anything...can you get your money back?
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited May 2004
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    yeah, extreme sticks really well, i tried peeling it today. but, i dont have access to a heat gun... i suppose i can try a hair dryer tomorrow. hmm... i dont know about a refund either, i'll call and ask.
    It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon

    "Its not good enough until we have real-time fearmongering. I want my fear mongered as it happens." - Shizelbs
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited August 2004
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    Who in their right mind would want a W7 in their car if its not for competition?
    They are heavy, they break, they have a crappy warranty, they require a 1" MDF box thickness, they are TOOO powerhungrey and worst of all, they take up too much room.

    just buy a good 12" and port it, if done correctley, it will sound better!
    and take a lok at the facts, polk momo vs W7

    Lighter (in comparision), fantastic warranty and superior customer service! 3/4 mdf box, dont need a Nuc power plant to run the thing! much cheaper and they look good! and best of all, they need minimal airspace!
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited August 2004
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    There is nothing wrong with having a W7 in your car if you can afford it.

    If I had $1000 just lying around Id have an Xtant amp.

    You do get what you pay for and that is especially true in electronics. You pay thru the nose for a W7 but youre getting a lot in return.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited September 2004
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    Originally posted by exalted512
    ill have the brahmas hopefully by september
    the amp will be like the year after some time, it all depends on money
    i can build a box thatll make the brahmas plenty loud for now
    it all depends on money really...the money for the brahmas has already been put aside
    but im getting a new truck next summer
    im going to be putting a lift on it
    then ill be replacing the gears and adding a locking differential to the back
    plus i want to shave the handles on the truck and tint/alarm
    then ill have to get a better alternator
    then the usa-3000...lol
    not a huge priority right now
    buts its on the list of mods for the future truck...you should see the **** im going to do to this truck...its going to sick
    -Cody

    more like a tractor then a truck. :) can you hit the guard rail or can you jump over the guard rail??
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2004
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    id go through it:D
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it