Choosing the right towers for music

Hello! I’m a music fanatic who spends lots of time on qello. A brief history on my setup. I used to have 12” MTX DJ speakers in my home setup. My music preferences have shifted away from the boomy teenage sounds haha to a desire for clear mids and highs mostly for classic rock music. I purchased a set of T50s which was a step in the right direction. I have a RX-V383 Yamaha 4K 5.1 receiver which typically only used in a 2.1 configuration.

I have the low frequencies covered and am primarily concerned with clear mids and highs. I prefer somewhat smooth mellow highs, nothing too crisp.

I’m looking at the Monitor 70 vs RTI-A7
For lows I have three 10” subs tuned for my genre so I’m not really concerned about frequencies under 125 hz. Before joining I read some posts here that suggested the RTI-A7s are more suited for ht and are really crisp, almost too crisp for music. Is this a general consensus or a few people’s opinion?

As for right now I have no plans for bi amping. What do you recommend specifically for music in the $500-700 (pair) range?

Comments

  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,006
    edited March 8
    ^^^What he said^^^

    Hello and welcome.

    Signature series S55 or S60 sounds more like what your looking for.

    I owned RTi-8's before I got the Signatures. Night and day for music on those.

    For example, RTi I could not listen to Rush 2112 above -15db. I've had my S60 @ -3db and it was still clear. With the RTi I thought my ears were going to bleed.

    Yes we will help spend all your money, you will in the end have an awesome system.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • rburgess714rburgess714 Posts: 435
    Echo the Signature series or LSiM series.
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    Office
    Yamaha A-S501, Auralic Aries Mini, LSiM 703s

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  • bhsguyjessebhsguyjesse Posts: 9
    Cool I’ll look into the signature series. I don’t have the money for LSiM series but If I want it that loud I’ll just crank my band’s system. We are running about 12,000 watts peak. I know the pro audio side quite well which is what’s made me want to finally redo my home setup.
    mrloren wrote: »
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
    . ^^^ Hahaha I love that! This is so me!!^^. I have a small detached workshop that is going to soon be repurposed as a man cave/small music studio so eventually my main setup will be there where no one will complain about the volume. It’s hard to replicate the full sound of being at a rock show but it’s possible at home with the right speakers to get close
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 551
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  • msgmsg Posts: 4,944
    Welcome, otherJesse.
    You're gonna fit in well around here.
    I disabled signatures.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,682
    Moving up the line isn’t about louder, it’s about better, more refined, and more accurate sound. It pro audio is your measuring stick, maybe you should just stick with that. Pro audio is designed for volume, bass, and distribution over huge spaces. Home audio is designed for accuracy, musical balance, and a good but much smaller sound stage for a much smaller room.

    The lsim is actually a more laid back and polite speaker than the lower lines, especially rtia. But most people really like the signature line, so I would go for that. Or, since you already have good subs, this would be my choice:

    https://www.adorama.com/pklsim703b2.html?sdtid=12884953&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905

    Get a good HOME audio amp and stands and listen to these puppies sing...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Excite x18; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,973
    In pro audio you overpower noise. In home audio you want to eliminate it. It's not about sheer watts as it is quality of those watts. It's like Clemens vs. Maddux if you will.

    I actually really like the T50 and think you could invest in better amplification and get much better results. Your receiver will do no favors for any speakers hooked up to it.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,682
    DSkip wrote: »
    In pro audio you overpower noise. In home audio you want to eliminate it. It's not about sheer watts as it is quality of those watts. It's like Clemens vs. Maddux if you will.

    I actually really like the T50 and think you could invest in better amplification and get much better results. Your receiver will do no favors for any speakers hooked up to it.

    very well said.

    And although I have never heard the T50s outside of best buy, I agree that no matter the speaker the OP needs a better receiver with preouts or better yet a two channel pre, and either way a decent HOME amp for power...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Excite x18; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • bhsguyjessebhsguyjesse Posts: 9
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Moving up the line isn’t about louder, it’s about better, more refined, and more accurate sound. It pro audio is your measuring stick, maybe you should just stick with that. Pro audio is designed for volume, bass, and distribution over huge spaces. Home audio is designed for accuracy, musical balance, and a good but much smaller sound stage for a much smaller room.

    The lsim is actually a more laid back and polite speaker than the lower lines, especially rtia. But most people really like the signature line, so I would go for that. Or, since you already have good subs, this would be my choice:

    https://www.adorama.com/pklsim703b2.html?sdtid=12884953&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905

    Get a good HOME audio amp and stands and listen to these puppies sing...

    Oh I know I was just being fresh about the loudness of our pro setup and absolutely I agree. Pro audio is about maximum sound across all frequencies and being able to broadcast to a large audience. When I was younger I was more about the thump boom. I’m definitely looking for clarity and acoustics now. And yes unfortunately consumer line receivers never have enough power and unfortunately my Yamaha doesn’t have preouts for a power amp.

    I’d love to get a premium speaker system with a good power amp but I have many other priorities now that are higher on the list. I’m gonna take a trip to Crutchfield this weekend and do some comparison testing with the different lines. I am lucky to live so close to them as their two retail stores are setup with the ultimate test rooms where you can hear many different speaker setups.
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,397
    Welcome to Club Polk! I'm another happy Signature S60 owner, they do great with both music and movies.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 ch. 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,191
    If you are on a budget the Signature line is your huckleberry.

    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; Cables ZU Mission IC's, SC and power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All speakers have had crossover rebuilds, resulting in a small fortune invested in Sonicaps, and tweeter upgrades.

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,504
    One option is to find a used speaker in great condition. I had Polk LSi15s, and really enjoyed them.

    http://www.audioreview.com/product/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/polk-audio/lsi15.html
    Bud - Silicon Valley

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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,006
    When I first heard the Signature S60 I was blown away. I was lucky and given a tour of Polk in Vista. They had the Signature S60 hooked to a small old POS Onkyo. Oh my they sounded so sweet. Signature line is made not to need a big power AVR.

    About a month after the tour I got my S60 from Adorama ($800 for 2,S60 1, S30 & 2, S20). Oh yeah they hit the spot. I added separate power amp and they sing. These replaced my RTi8. THe RTi are a better speaker for HT use but not that great for music. Signatures are a musical speaker that do a good job in HT.

    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • bhsguyjessebhsguyjesse Posts: 9
    Ok so Crutchfield had the S60 and S50 on display. I have three 10 inch subs already tuned for music. Im really thinking about the S55 instead of the S60 due to the price difference. Are the S60s REALLY worth the $200 difference when my current subs are taken into consideration? Will I always regret not getting the S60s?

    I’m headed back tomorrow as I couldn’t fit either in the vehicle I was driving today.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,682
    Dude wait on Adorama you will get a much better deal..
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Excite x18; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,006
    I agree check around online
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,397
    Ok so Crutchfield had the S60 and S50 on display. I have three 10 inch subs already tuned for music. Im really thinking about the S55 instead of the S60 due to the price difference. Are the S60s REALLY worth the $200 difference when my current subs are taken into consideration? Will I always regret not getting the S60s?

    I’m headed back tomorrow as I couldn’t fit either in the vehicle I was driving today.

    You will probably always wonder just how much better the S60 are if you settle for the 50s or 55s.

    If you have the room and the funds, go for the 60s and don't look back!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 ch. 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,397
    It is just wonderful when I decide to listen in 2 channel mode to have my room sound so full with the music.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 ch. 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,006
    House cleaning day today. The S60 make it soo much better when I can't hear the vacuum.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 551
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Ok so Crutchfield had the S60 and S50 on display. I have three 10 inch subs already tuned for music. Im really thinking about the S55 instead of the S60 due to the price difference. Are the S60s REALLY worth the $200 difference when my current subs are taken into consideration? Will I always regret not getting the S60s?

    I’m headed back tomorrow as I couldn’t fit either in the vehicle I was driving today.

    You will probably always wonder just how much better the S60 are if you settle for the 50s or 55s.

    If you have the room and the funds, go for the 60s and don't look back!

    I agree I would have bought the S60's, but the wife already thought the S55's were too big compared to what we had before.

    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, HSU VTF-2 MK5, LSiM705, LSiM704, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, Douglas Connection Alpha 12AWG OCC Speaker Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha Analog Interconnect Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 11 OCC Custom Power Cable, Cullen Gold Power Cable, Signal Power Cables, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,504
    No excuse. :)
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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