Most bang for buck upgrade?

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  • verbverb Posts: 7,647
    Another thing for me was getting a SACD player. Picked up a nice Marantz DV7600 on CL for a hundie, and wow! Pink Floyd DSOTM sounded brand new to me! Been on a SACD journey now, with limited titles, but the search is fun! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,472
    The biggest bang for the buck for me was two things. A pair of SDA 2.3TLs. Actually, make that two pair but both are gone.

    And, my introduction to the magic of a tube preamp, Anthem Pre-2L, by the honorable Dorokusai. I still have one of those, but it led to much more expensive things!
    1. Polk LSiM707, 704C, 703; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz SR7011 receiver; Parasound A23 amp; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Plant Premier; MIT S2 cables
    2. JM Labs Electra 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 Preamp; Classe Model 25 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Oppo 105D; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio Power Director; MIT S1 Cables
    3. Polk LSiM703; Parasound JC2BP and A21; Sony 48" 4K TV; Wyred4Sound DAC 2; Oppo 203; Squeezebox Touch; MIT S3 cables
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,093
    Most bang for the buck.

    I replaced the brass jumpers that came on my speakers with Furez 10AWG. $5 in wire made a big difference.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • vcwatkinsvcwatkins Posts: 1,909
    1-Bob Brines designed folded, tapered mass-loaded TQWTs loaded with the venerable Radio Shack 40-1354 twincones. Amazing DIY speakers for less than a hundred bucks.

    2- Pass Amp Camp Amp

    3- Roon
    Den: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon (Sonic Transporter) * PS Audio DirectStream Jr. * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Sunfire Signature II * PSAudio Power Plant 3 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2
    Office: Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * ProJect Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
    Beach: Music Hall MMF5.1se * Speed Box II * DL103r * Lounge Copla/LCRIII * W4S Sonos * Schiit Yggdrasil * Belles 20a Pre * First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,638
    In honour of Jesse, my MIT avt cables.

    The biggest bang was going 5.1 to 2.1. Which made me change everything in my system.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Signal Dig Coax, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Marantz DV-4200 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Rotel RDV 1045 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • rburgess714rburgess714 Posts: 449
    proper pre for 2-channel
    My Aries Mini
    Douglas Connection Speaker Cables
    Douglas Connection ICs

    Living Room
    Yamaha Aventage RX-A 1060, Parasound P5, Parasound A23, Yamaha BD-S681, Cambridge Audio Azur 851N, Polk S60, Polk S30, Samsung 60" LED

    Office
    Yamaha A-S501, Auralic Aries Mini, LSiM 703s

    Douglas Connection ICs and Cables
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,439
    Bang for the buck....means different things to different people. Here is my idea....

    Used cables from the higher up brands like MIT, Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Analysis Plus , AQ, Kimber, and a host of others.

    Yesterdays high end gear, HT pre/pro's from the likes of Cary, Classe, Anthem, B&k still make a decent 2 channel pre and come with good dacs in them.

    Any used PS Audio product is a good bang for the buck.

    Older tubed pre's from Joule, VTL, Vac, Cary

    Older SS AMPS from Parasound, B&k, McCormack, Butler....if you can find them around 1k
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,488
    For me given the price point, was the internal wire upgrade in the 2.3TL's. Going from stock to the 15.5ga Cardas Litz was immediately noticeable. Somewhat labor intensive but well worth it.

  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 949
    edited January 8
    I will contribute to say that proper speaker stands can make a big difference for a relatively small price, particularly on monitor-type speakers. After replacing tweeters, upgrading crossovers, etc., you'll want those monitors up off the floor, and tilted back (pointed toward your ears), in order to really enjoy all those other improvements.
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator

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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 1,336
    gmcman wrote: »
    For me given the price point, was the internal wire upgrade in the 2.3TL's. Going from stock to the 15.5ga Cardas Litz was immediately noticeable. Somewhat labor intensive but well worth it.

    Hmmm. Not the first person here to say internal wiring upgrades. Making me think I should do this. Where did you source the wire?
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    1000 Va Dreadnought- w/ WireWorld Mini-Eclipse cables
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    WireWorld Silver Eclipse IC's
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Denon DVD 2900

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,786
    Depends on the rig.

    For the Carver Amazings rig, hands down best upgrade for the least amount of money was 10 gauge speaker wire. $50 bucks, a set of gold plated carbon fiber terminal ends and all of a sudden, no more over-drawn situations and enough bass to shake my neighbor's house from a set of Carver Silver 7t's.

    For the Peachtree/Totem Acoustics rig, the $50 ART USB Phono Pre. Was not expecting that level of performance from a "quick/cheap fix" to get the Micro Seiki DD-35 turntable up and running. Stellar DAC but also allows me to feed my turntable output into my computer. I have ripped so much vinyl to digital formats! My dad can listen to his White Album from The Beatles without destroying it thanks to that little black box.

    The other stuff, it's hard to say. Put everything together on a budget so the bang for the buck factor is through the roof.

    But I will say that the Green KLH rig...that wowed everyone at PF2010. So much so that dorokusai actually came upstairs and asked me to turn down Rob Zombie (if you know doro, that pained him greatly to do) because they couldn't hear the LSi15/BBQ rig over my stupid little KLH 17's, my home made tube amp and my pocket MP3 player. I had to recharge that MP3 player 6 times that weekend 'cause that little rig got such a workout. Funny thing was, it was in the same room as Lou's Amazings which everyone but Antny ignored and Antny broke them that weekend too.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,298
    edited January 8
    Room Treatments, RDO tweeters, crossover recap
  • tonyp063tonyp063 Posts: 673
    I've only taken a few steps on this journey, but, for me, the unquestionable "bang" was a stand-alone tubed phono pre.

    Chinesium. But it opened my mind to what is possible.

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,072
    When I read the OP post, I thought you meant best component you own. That’s why I said Boulder.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,448
    Lol. Show off...;)
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,439
    Speaking of ATNY John, anyone heard anything about that boy ? Miss that dude.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 2,427
    For me it was jumping my SDAs from my AVR to a dedicated Audire amp, (cost $225), and then from using my AVR as the pre to a Dodd MLP (cost about $700 as I recall). Both were ear openers to what was possible.
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,786
    tonyb wrote: »
    Speaking of ATNY John, anyone heard anything about that boy ? Miss that dude.

    I got him on Facebook but he never responds to me. Dunno what's up.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • verbverb Posts: 7,647
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Spikes!!!

    :) Still hankering for em! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • Dr_WuDr_Wu Posts: 158
    Made a bunch of cheap upgrades that each incrementally improved my listening enjoyment. In the last 10 months: refurbed tt, recapped/upgraded SDA-CRS, ditched receiver for new to me Rotel amp and pre, bought new phono pre, ICs, speaker cables, taller speaker stands/spikes, and made acoustic panels and subwoofer base. Nothing on the audiophile level, but I'm happy with how things sound and didn't break the bank.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,448
    Nice ^
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61
  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,716
    edited January 12
    I will say Totem Rainmaker Monitors and a REL sealed sub, both used of course. After that...I was surpised the jump my Benchmark DAC was over the previous Schiit Bifrost DAC.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,115
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I will say Totem Rainmaker Monitors and a REL sealed sub, both used of course. After that...I was surpised the jump my Benchmark DAC was over the previous Schiit Bifrost DAC.

    I’ve always wanted to like Schiit.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,320
    edited January 12
    DSkip wrote: »

    I’ve always wanted to like Schiit.



    Me too... I just can’t get past the smell.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,448
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I will say Totem Rainmaker Monitors and a REL sealed sub, both used of course. After that...I was surpised the jump my Benchmark DAC was over the previous Schiit Bifrost DAC.

    I have the same monitors however not hooked up at the moment. They are great.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,320
    Once I get it dialed in, my Pass X0.2 and the Xono... in order to get them, I sold my Krell CDP, the X1, and my PS Audio phono stage. The net cost after all is second and done will be a big, fat zero out of pocket.

    So for the cost of swapping some pieces around, I get a huge upgrade for nothing.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,541
    Marantz NA8005 for playing flac. It was one of those "oh wow" moments. It made playing CDs through my Pio BDP-51FD sound sterile and that Pioneer really doesn't sound sterile. I couldn't believe the difference, by far my best audio purchase to date. And that was before the Ruby Modification.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
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