Most bang for buck upgrade?

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  • verbverb Posts: 4,484
    Another thing for me was getting a SACD player. Picked up a nice Marantz DV7600 on CL for a hundie, and wow! Pink Floyd DSOTM sounded brand new to me! Been on a SACD journey now, with limited titles, but the search is fun! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,184
    The biggest bang for the buck for me was two things. A pair of SDA 2.3TLs. Actually, make that two pair but both are gone.

    And, my introduction to the magic of a tube preamp, Anthem Pre-2L, by the honorable Dorokusai. I still have one of those, but it led to much more expensive things!
    1. Polk LSiM707, 704C, 703; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz SR7011 receiver; Parasound A23 amp; Oppo 205; Toshiba HD-DVD Player; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Plant Premier; MIT S2 cables
    2. JM Labs Electra 920.1; Parasound JC2 Preamp; Sonic Frontiers Power 2 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Oppo 105D; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio P1000; MIT S1 Cables
    3. Polk LSiM703; Pioneer Elite SC97 receiver; Oppo 203; Squeezebox Touch; MIT S3 cables
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,680
    Most bang for the buck.

    I replaced the brass jumpers that came on my speakers with Furez 10AWG. $5 in wire made a big difference.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • vcwatkinsvcwatkins Posts: 1,837
    1-Bob Brines designed folded, tapered mass-loaded TQWTs loaded with the venerable Radio Shack 40-1354 twincones. Amazing DIY speakers for less than a hundred bucks.

    2- Pass Amp Camp Amp

    3- Roon
    Den: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Jolida jd9 * Roon (Sonic Transporter) * PS Audio DirectStream Jr. * Joule-Electra LA-100 iii * Sunfire Signature II * PSAudio p3 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2
    Office: Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, ISo Regen) * ProJect Pre Box S2 * Pass Amp Camp Amp * PSAudio Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
    Beach: Music Hall MMF5.1se * Speed Box II * DL103r * Belles 20a Phono * Sonos/Roon * Schiit Yggdrasil * Belles 20a Pre * First Watt F5 Clone * PSAudio Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,232
    In honour of Jesse, my MIT avt cables.

    The biggest bang was going 5.1 to 2.1. Which made me change everything in my system.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • rburgess714rburgess714 Posts: 325
    proper pre for 2-channel
    My Aries Mini
    Douglas Connection Speaker Cables
    Douglas Connection ICs

    Living Room
    Yamaha Aventage RX-A 1060, Parasound P5, Parasound A23, Yamaha BD-S681, Auralic Aries Mini, Polk S60, Polk S30, Samsung 60" LED

    Office
    B&K Ref 50, B&K 200.2, Chromecast, LSiM 703s

    Douglas Connection ICs and Cables
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,397
    Bang for the buck....means different things to different people. Here is my idea....

    Used cables from the higher up brands like MIT, Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Analysis Plus , AQ, Kimber, and a host of others.

    Yesterdays high end gear, HT pre/pro's from the likes of Cary, Classe, Anthem, B&k still make a decent 2 channel pre and come with good dacs in them.

    Any used PS Audio product is a good bang for the buck.

    Older tubed pre's from Joule, VTL, Vac, Cary

    Older SS AMPS from Parasound, B&k, McCormack, Butler....if you can find them around 1k
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,319
    For me given the price point, was the internal wire upgrade in the 2.3TL's. Going from stock to the 15.5ga Cardas Litz was immediately noticeable. Somewhat labor intensive but well worth it.

  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 523
    edited January 8
    I will contribute to say that proper speaker stands can make a big difference for a relatively small price, particularly on monitor-type speakers. After replacing tweeters, upgrading crossovers, etc., you'll want those monitors up off the floor, and tilted back (pointed toward your ears), in order to really enjoy all those other improvements.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 613
    gmcman wrote: »
    For me given the price point, was the internal wire upgrade in the 2.3TL's. Going from stock to the 15.5ga Cardas Litz was immediately noticeable. Somewhat labor intensive but well worth it.

    Hmmm. Not the first person here to say internal wiring upgrades. Making me think I should do this. Where did you source the wire?
    Home System: see
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    800 Va Dreadnought
    B&K Reference 50 Pre
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,703
    Depends on the rig.

    For the Carver Amazings rig, hands down best upgrade for the least amount of money was 10 gauge speaker wire. $50 bucks, a set of gold plated carbon fiber terminal ends and all of a sudden, no more over-drawn situations and enough bass to shake my neighbor's house from a set of Carver Silver 7t's.

    For the Peachtree/Totem Acoustics rig, the $50 ART USB Phono Pre. Was not expecting that level of performance from a "quick/cheap fix" to get the Micro Seiki DD-35 turntable up and running. Stellar DAC but also allows me to feed my turntable output into my computer. I have ripped so much vinyl to digital formats! My dad can listen to his White Album from The Beatles without destroying it thanks to that little black box.

    The other stuff, it's hard to say. Put everything together on a budget so the bang for the buck factor is through the roof.

    But I will say that the Green KLH rig...that wowed everyone at PF2010. So much so that dorokusai actually came upstairs and asked me to turn down Rob Zombie (if you know doro, that pained him greatly to do) because they couldn't hear the LSi15/BBQ rig over my stupid little KLH 17's, my home made tube amp and my pocket MP3 player. I had to recharge that MP3 player 6 times that weekend 'cause that little rig got such a workout. Funny thing was, it was in the same room as Lou's Amazings which everyone but Antny ignored and Antny broke them that weekend too.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,035
    edited January 8
    Room Treatments, RDO tweeters, crossover recap
  • tonyp063tonyp063 Posts: 507
    I've only taken a few steps on this journey, but, for me, the unquestionable "bang" was a stand-alone tubed phono pre.

    Chinesium. But it opened my mind to what is possible.

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,720
    When I read the OP post, I thought you meant best component you own. That’s why I said Boulder.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,491
    Lol. Show off...;)
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with upgrades, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ XLR's and IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,397
    Speaking of ATNY John, anyone heard anything about that boy ? Miss that dude.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 2,313
    For me it was jumping my SDAs from my AVR to a dedicated Audire amp, (cost $225), and then from using my AVR as the pre to a Dodd MLP (cost about $700 as I recall). Both were ear openers to what was possible.
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel ,Dodd 50W Dual Mono EL34 Amp, MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp, Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded), A/L 1000VA Dreadnought, Canare 4s11 SDA cable, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Vincent Pho-700 Phono Pre, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / Pangea & Signal Cable MP power
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000
    LA Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp, Polk LSIM705, Marantz DV8300 SACD, Audioengine B1, MIT AVt3 Speaker & RCA Cables, PS Audio Power Punch power cables

    Dodd Mid Level Preamp ("on the bench" w/Charlie)
    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    McCormack DNA-1 Power Drive Amp
    Eastern Electric Minimax CDP
    Infinity RS5b Speakers

  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,703
    tonyb wrote: »
    Speaking of ATNY John, anyone heard anything about that boy ? Miss that dude.

    I got him on Facebook but he never responds to me. Dunno what's up.
    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,983
    Spikes!!!
  • verbverb Posts: 4,484
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Spikes!!!

    :) Still hankering for em! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • Dr_WuDr_Wu Posts: 91
    Made a bunch of cheap upgrades that each incrementally improved my listening enjoyment. In the last 10 months: refurbed tt, recapped/upgraded SDA-CRS, ditched receiver for new to me Rotel amp and pre, bought new phono pre, ICs, speaker cables, taller speaker stands/spikes, and made acoustic panels and subwoofer base. Nothing on the audiophile level, but I'm happy with how things sound and didn't break the bank.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,491
    Nice ^
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with upgrades, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ XLR's and IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,391
    edited January 12
    I will say Totem Rainmaker Monitors and a REL sealed sub, both used of course. After that...I was surpised the jump my Benchmark DAC was over the previous Schiit Bifrost DAC.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,251
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I will say Totem Rainmaker Monitors and a REL sealed sub, both used of course. After that...I was surpised the jump my Benchmark DAC was over the previous Schiit Bifrost DAC.

    I’ve always wanted to like Schiit.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,960
    edited January 12
    DSkip wrote: »

    I’ve always wanted to like Schiit.



    Me too... I just can’t get past the smell.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds



    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,491
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I will say Totem Rainmaker Monitors and a REL sealed sub, both used of course. After that...I was surpised the jump my Benchmark DAC was over the previous Schiit Bifrost DAC.

    I have the same monitors however not hooked up at the moment. They are great.
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with upgrades, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ XLR's and IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 18,960
    Once I get it dialed in, my Pass X0.2 and the Xono... in order to get them, I sold my Krell CDP, the X1, and my PS Audio phono stage. The net cost after all is second and done will be a big, fat zero out of pocket.

    So for the cost of swapping some pieces around, I get a huge upgrade for nothing.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Stradivari v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X1 preamplifier Signed by Poppa himself, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds



    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,051
    Marantz NA8005 for playing flac. It was one of those "oh wow" moments. It made playing CDs through my Pio BDP-51FD sound sterile and that Pioneer really doesn't sound sterile. I couldn't believe the difference, by far my best audio purchase to date. And that was before the Ruby Modification.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | Sanus UF30 | OC703 Panels

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | OC703 Panels
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