Hey Apple... This Is Why The Haters

scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,478
edited January 5 in The Clubhouse
Been using an aftermarket Lightning Cable (supposedly certified) every night to charge my iPhone for over a year. Then the other day JUST my iPhone decided it doesn’t like the cable anymore.

I have had this happen with older Apple devices long ago, but they would still charge with the unsupported accessory. This time, no dice - my phone will NOT charge anymore with this one cable. :'(

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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,125
    That's pathetic. Yet another reason why I will never use an Apple product.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,010
    edited January 5
    FWIW -- The parallels between Apple's closed architecture "ecosystem" and Henry Ford's "Model T" approach to customers* has always struck me as obvious.

    :p

    ... and not that I such a fan of the "wintel" world, other than its egalitarian, open architecture ethos -- libetarian that I am, stuff like Linux kind of appeals to me more... and I've drifted in and out of the open source world a couple of times (again, FWIW).

    So, yeah, I feel your pain.

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    * Ford said of his products (for a long time) that the customer could have a Model T in "any color you want -- as long as it's black". The Model T had lots of "closed architecture" idiosyncracies (two-wheel brakes, planetary gearbox, solid tires, gravity fuel flow) long after other manufacturers had "modernized" their cars and, truth be told, towards the end of the Model T's run, most mod cons were adopted by Ford :p On the other hand, Ford is still around as an independent company (more or less), more than 90 years after the demise of the Model T :|
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,010
    In fairness, though, it may be that your cable (or the connection in the Apple device) may just be worn out. :) I have heard that the Apple world is a little more subject to connector fatigue (so to speak) than the USB connector world.
  • verbverb Posts: 4,478
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    In fairness, though, it may be that your cable (or the connection in the Apple device) may just be worn out. :) I have heard that the Apple world is a little more subject to connector fatigue (so to speak) than the USB connector world.

    I get that message with aftermarket cables as well, after some time, but when I swap it out with a new aftermarket one, no issue. I agree that the cable fatigue phenomena is still annoying.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,010
    Well, as a former (no kidding!?!) technology strategist (albeit in biotech, not "high tech"), I would say that the development of hardware that is small, expensive and fragile (glass screens?!?) was a master stroke along the evolutionary pathway of planned obsolesence.

    But that would be an awfully cynical thing for me to say,so I shan't. ;)

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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,226
    I get the same pretty frequently with my three adapter connection in my car.

    Normally means the connection needs cleaning (the prongs on the adapter) and then it’s solved.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,010
    I get the same pretty frequently with my three adapter connection in my car.

    Normally means the connection needs cleaning (the prongs on the adapter) and then it’s solved.

    how do you clean those itty-bitty connectors? DeOxit?
    (this is meant to be a actual, serious question)
  • verbverb Posts: 4,478
    I get the same pretty frequently with my three adapter connection in my car.

    Normally means the connection needs cleaning (the prongs on the adapter) and then it’s solved.

    Yep, the one's in the car get pretty fatigued. How do you clean em? Do you use a solvent?
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,094
    I'd clean the cable end with 91% alcohol. The phone end nothing but a small soft toothbrush. Even my android needs the lint and dust removed. Canned air also works or just blowing it out.

    Arf Apple never in my lifetime!!
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,226
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I'd clean the cable end with 91% alcohol. The phone end nothing but a small soft toothbrush. Even my android needs the lint and dust removed. Canned air also works or just blowing it out.

    Arf Apple never in my lifetime!!

    ^This

    Although honestly in a pinch I’ve just rubbed it between my fingers before or physical scrapped the end with my nail (on the cable, not inside the phone :smile: )
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  • Strong BadStrong Bad Posts: 4,203
    Apple has been making me more and more furious over the years with their constant changing of ports on their devices, yet NOT including anything with said device for backwards compatibility.

    I bought one of the new iPad 12.9" models in Dec. I get it home, go to plug it into my TWO YEAR OLD iMac and what do you know...they only include a USB-C to USB-C cable. Yeah Apple, only Mac's from 2018 (I believe) have USB-C ports. Did they think to include an extra cable or adaptor that probably cost $1 to make in China...oh no. It's OUR privilege to have to go out and spend more money so it will work. I called Apple first to express my anger (which they don't care), then returned it to Best Buy. They looked at me funny when I said the iPad was not compatible with my iMac, then explained. I offered to keep it if they gave me an adaptor for free, which they declined, so i got a full refund.

    Apple was crying lately saying their sales were hurt by the trade war. Now Tim Cook has gone on record saying sales in the US, Europe and other countries have simply not been as strong as they hoped. Yeah, you're pricing people out of the ability to upgrade. Not to mention the carriers cutting back on subsidies, which increases the cost to consumers. China is creating their knock-off iPhones which of course...are hurting your sales. It's not hard to figure out Tim!

    I seriously hope Apple goes through a big rough stretch for a few years to maybe knock them back to reality. Really, all it would have taken was to put a $1 (their cost) adaptor in the box and I would have kept the iPad.
    No excuses!
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,138
    Any color, as long as it is a shade of Apple.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,010
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Apple has been making me more and more furious over the years with their constant changing of ports on their devices, yet NOT including anything with said device for backwards compatibility.
    Apple is supremely and irrevocably future focused :p
    I seriously hope Apple goes through a big rough stretch for a few years to maybe knock them back to reality. Really, all it would have taken was to put a $1 (their cost) adaptor in the box and I would have kept the iPad.

    me, too (despite the drag that'll be on the economy. Sometimes, gotta lose the battle to win the war).

    :|
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,010
    So -- we lived in the Silicon Valley for a couple of years when our kids were very young. We lived in a pretty low-rent town by Valley standards -- Milpitas. This was also in the days after Prop 103 (or whatever it was) when the CA schools had been already devastated by a lack of funding. The schools were in bad shape, but the computer "labs" were full of shiny new Apple hardware of various kinds.

    Apple was smart, in their fairly early days, focusing on the education market. Indoctrinate today's kids, since they are tomorrow's consumers.

    oops, gonna need to post the Andy Rooney JPG again :p
  • DabutcherDabutcher Posts: 1,846
    I only use my iPhone six plus and iPad Pro 12.9. Been that way for the last six years. No issues and awesome performance. I use a Galaxy S7 and toughbook for work and IMHO they both suck spring water. I will admit I am a simpleton that is happy that something’s just work. To each his own. That’s what makes America Great!
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,386
    I think I may be the typical iPhone owner (model 6) who refuses to upgrade since my current phone is fine and the headache and expense of upgrading is not worth it. Plus, the cost of 5 i phones in one family aint cheap! Perhaps Apple stock is suffering due they built their older phones too well?
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,164
    Actually since carriers like Verizon or ATT are not giving the deals like $200 to upgrade to the newest and ATT/Verizon eating the difference. I know they have the 20-24mo payment deal but like you with a family of 5 that's an extra $150+mo for the 5 phones. I just upgraded from my 6plus to the X only because Assimilated gave me a heck of a deal.

    The phones have practically doubled in cost from the 6's to the latest...that just gets expensive
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,386
    Exactley....double the cost with minimal improvement in phone function. What resolution do you really need for this tiny screen before the human eye cannot really tell the difference.
  • verbverb Posts: 4,478
    For years the Mrs and I would get a new identical iPhones for Christmas. A couple of years ago, I decided to only get her one, and now as she upgrades, I get her hand me down. No complaints, and saving some bucks! :smile:
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,164
    I'm not doing a full upgrade till the 5G phones roll out (1st qtr 2019)

    Then I'll pass my wife this X
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  • DabutcherDabutcher Posts: 1,846
    I think I read somewhere that 70% of Apple sales are iPhones. Amazing if true.
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,386
    edited January 5
    I still have my iPad 2 which has been dropped on its corner and lost in the seatback of a SW flight...kudos to Southwest on getting it back to me!
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,903
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I still have my iPad 2 which has been dropped on its corner and lost in the seatback of a SW flight...kudos to Southwest on getting it back to me!

    But you don’t get any support or updates on that right? And you are stuck with older apps.

    I agree that upgrading every year or even two is pretty silly at this point, especially since Apple is really working hard at supporting older devices now. I’ll keep my 7 plus for at least another year, probably two. It hurts apple sales in the short run, but chances are my whole family will have apple devices for a long time, so repeat business is better imho...
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,386
    I havent had any issues downloading apps and I do receive updates to the ipad, but perhaps not as many as my phone (?)
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,094
    Dabutcher wrote: »
    I think I read somewhere that 70% of Apple sales are iPhones. Amazing if true.
    Love yours. D

    Yes a lot of truth to that the phones saved them from a certian demise several years back.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,903
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I havent had any issues downloading apps and I do receive updates to the ipad, but perhaps not as many as my phone (?)

    Then it’s an iPad Air 2, not an iPad 2 lol...
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  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,138
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I think I may be the typical iPhone owner (model 6) who refuses to upgrade since my current phone is fine and the headache and expense of upgrading is not worth it. Plus, the cost of 5 i phones in one family aint cheap! Perhaps Apple stock is suffering due they built their older phones too well?

    We have a couple of the same model, feel no need to "upgrade"....which means incremental changes and differences, but a lot more money...
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,840
    IPads > Android Tablets
    IPhones < Android Phones

    Yes it's that simple.
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,386
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I havent had any issues downloading apps and I do receive updates to the ipad, but perhaps not as many as my phone (?)

    Then it’s an iPad Air 2, not an iPad 2 lol...
    Im pretty sure its not an air. When I download a new app to my phone, it also shows up on my iPad....
  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,386
    edited January 8
    IPads > Android Tablets
    IPhones < Android Phones

    Yes it's that simple.


    eh....I went thru several Android phones before settling on an iPhone. All the Android stuff seemed jenky to me. Maybe I should give the Windows phone a try😂
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