LSiM 707 upgrade from RTi A7?

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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,680
    I have an XPA3 G3 and like it a lot. Good even power to the front 3 makes a big difference.

    miss matching surrounds is not bad as long as you have good speakers
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mpitogompitogo Posts: 303
    edited December 2018
    Derm wrote: »
    and will be curious to see how the 707’s perform with everything when I get them and swap them in to ensure they work.
    Of course, when new and no hours on them it’s probably not a great comparison.

    Break in is essential. Just as important as power! I started with an MA5200 100wpc was OK, upgraded to RB1590 350wpc much better and finally MC452 450wpc and now she really sings. The biggest difference is in the subwoofer section, I can now not only hear the music but I can feel it! Good test track is Transylvania by Kim Petras crank that song up!

    [one thing to note McIntosh is conservative on their ratings, an MA5200 review has tested it to go to 130wpc into 8ohms and 185 into 4 ohms. Since it has no autoformer it has new circuitry called DPM dynamic power management. With the 4ohm load of the MTM in the LSi25 the MA5200 work better it than with the 707. The new MA5300 improves on dpm by adding dual scale watt meters and publishing 4ohm specs of 160wpc.]

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    Enjoy it!
    Living Room Music-2.0 Polk LSiM 707 | McIntosh C47 | Macintosh MC452 | Denon DP-2500A | Oppo BDP-103 | MacMini
    Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSi25, Martin Logan Motion 50xt, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, fx500, T15, RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | McIntosh MA5200 HT-passthrough & independent 2.0 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
    Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, T15 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Xbox 360 MCE | AppleTV | Samsung 55”
    Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Sansui FR-1080
    Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570
    Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged
    Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Living Room (Optical), MA5200 (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). MacMini iTunes multi-stream to any, combo or all.
    Spares: Polk LSiC, CS300, T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, Nelson Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks, Sony CDP-491, STR DE715, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500
    Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
  • ivanlee13ivanlee13 Posts: 21
    edited January 2
    Hi guys, so I have splurged quite a lot now. I got the LSiM707, LSiM706c and a Emotiva XPA-3 power amp coming. I have one more question, if I can afford only a pair of LSiM703 right now, should I use them as side surrounds or rear surrounds? I will use my current RTiA1s for the other pair of surrounds so I just need some advice on where to put the better surrounds, side or rear? Thanks!
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,903
    I would run the RTI A1’s as surrounds before making a decision, if I were you.

    I run LSI M for front threes and RTI A’s for the other six. Works well for HT, and only listen to music in 2-channel.
  • ivanlee13ivanlee13 Posts: 21
    That would save me some money for sure, thanks! The sale for the 703 ends today at best buy canada so I'll save it in the box until I get to test the 707+706c together with my current system before deciding if I need to upgrade the surrounds and open it.
  • DermDerm Posts: 46
    Where did you get your 706c?
    Been trying to find one in Canada myself.
    Speakers
    Front - RTiA9 (2 pair) + LsiM707
    Front presence - RTiA3 + LsiM703
    Center - CSiA6
    Rear surrounds - FXiA4
    Sub - (pair) Klipsch R-12SW
    Zone 2 - BlackStone TL1

    AVR - Yamaha RX-A3010
    AMP - NAD C275BEE
    Main HT - LG 50” plasma, Yamaha BD-S671 & Sony UBXP800

    Bedroom HT setup - LG 55" 4K, Philips BDP7501 4K UHD player , Yamaha SRT-1500 sound projector

    Office - Pioneer X-CM56, Bose iPod dock
  • ivanlee13ivanlee13 Posts: 21
    Derm wrote: »
    Where did you get your 706c?
    Been trying to find one in Canada myself.

    I just ordered it from Adorama for $499 usd, had to pay I think $100 USD or so for shipping and $100 cdn to FedEx for customs. Not the best deal after factoring in shipping and customs cost, but at least it arrived quick.

  • Hello:

    I've had the Rti-A9s for the past 16 months and (overall) they are a pretty decent speaker.
    I use them in combination with (2) R-S700 Yamaha Receivers, Bose 901s and ancient Image Concept 200 Towers; as well as an SVS SB-2000 sub. All with proper setup, decent cabling, etc.

    All speakers are all running at the same time.

    The COMBINED sound was very nice and with better source material, it kept getting better. Certain FLAC 96/24 recordings from my Audio-Server sounded spectacular!

    Living in Canada, I recently took advantage of a super-deal on a new pair of LSiM-707 Towers and I must say there is a considerable difference between them and the A9s. Oddly, they are LOUDER than the A9s at the same volume setting which would indicate more efficiency but, nevertheless, it is the case with my setup.

    The 707s have been described as (and ARE) more "musical" then the A9s I found the A9s a bit edgy/harsh on the Treble and while I had to pull considerable Treble out with the Yamaha Tone controls (a must), I am running the 707s flat.

    Further, the Sound-stage and depth produced by the 707s is immense compared to the A9s. The 707s puts a listener into the music whereas, in comparison, the A9s were far more speaker-like.

    Realizing the importance of Synergy with audio components installed in a wide variety of rooms, this has been my experience.

    Although the pair of R-S700s seem to be working well, I'm currently looking into the A-S1100 Yamaha Integrated as the next evolutionary step towards audio Nirvana.

    My 2 cents.

  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,125
    edited January 10
    Hello:

    I've had the Rti-A9s for the past 16 months and (overall) they are a pretty decent speaker.
    I use them in combination with (2) R-S700 Yamaha Receivers, Bose 901s and ancient Image Concept 200 Towers; as well as an SVS SB-2000 sub. All with proper setup, decent cabling, etc.

    All speakers are all running at the same time.

    The COMBINED sound was very nice and with better source material, it kept getting better. Certain FLAC 96/24 recordings from my Audio-Server sounded spectacular!

    Living in Canada, I recently took advantage of a super-deal on a new pair of LSiM-707 Towers and I must say there is a considerable difference between them and the A9s. Oddly, they are LOUDER than the A9s at the same volume setting which would indicate more efficiency but, nevertheless, it is the case with my setup.

    The 707s have been described as (and ARE) more "musical" then the A9s I found the A9s a bit edgy/harsh on the Treble and while I had to pull considerable Treble out with the Yamaha Tone controls (a must), I am running the 707s flat.

    Further, the Sound-stage and depth produced by the 707s is immense compared to the A9s. The 707s puts a listener into the music whereas, in comparison, the A9s were far more speaker-like.

    Realizing the importance of Synergy with audio components installed in a wide variety of rooms, this has been my experience.

    Although the pair of R-S700s seem to be working well, I'm currently looking into the A-S1100 Yamaha Integrated as the next evolutionary step towards audio Nirvana.

    My 2 cents.

    well that is understandable as the RTiA9 are first and foremost voiced as a home theater speaker. The LSIm are more of a musical speaker for 2 channel listening. Do they work as a home theater speaker sure do but not voiced as bright as the RTiA line of speakers.
  • adabroadabro Posts: 196
    ivanlee13 wrote: »
    Derm wrote: »
    Where did you get your 706c?
    Been trying to find one in Canada myself.

    I just ordered it from Adorama for $499 usd, had to pay I think $100 USD or so for shipping and $100 cdn to FedEx for customs. Not the best deal after factoring in shipping and customs cost, but at least it arrived quick.

    I did the same, but had it delivered to a US shipping site, saved me a little bit, but the first one delivered was smashed. Had to drive it back across the border for pickup and will need to go back again next week when the replacement gets here. Not sure it was worth the hassle.
  • DermDerm Posts: 46
    edited January 10
    [/quote]

    I did the same, but had it delivered to a US shipping site, saved me a little bit, but the first one delivered was smashed. Had to drive it back across the border for pickup and will need to go back again next week when the replacement gets here. Not sure it was worth the hassle.[/quote]

    That’s disappointing. Hopefully the replacement is good.
    I had one of my 707’s damaged by UPS but the replacement was good.
    I was going to order the 706c from Adorama but I was on their eBay site and saw all of the damaged speakers there that it put me off.
    Are they double boxing these 706’s when they ship?
    My 707’s weren’t from Best Buy but I think those in particular are from Adorama.

    I want a 706c and pair of 702 f/x badly but getting them intact is the concern.
    Speakers
    Front - RTiA9 (2 pair) + LsiM707
    Front presence - RTiA3 + LsiM703
    Center - CSiA6
    Rear surrounds - FXiA4
    Sub - (pair) Klipsch R-12SW
    Zone 2 - BlackStone TL1

    AVR - Yamaha RX-A3010
    AMP - NAD C275BEE
    Main HT - LG 50” plasma, Yamaha BD-S671 & Sony UBXP800

    Bedroom HT setup - LG 55" 4K, Philips BDP7501 4K UHD player , Yamaha SRT-1500 sound projector

    Office - Pioneer X-CM56, Bose iPod dock
  • adabroadabro Posts: 196
    It was double boxed, but whatever got it, got it good. The boxes looked OK, but the Styrofoam was smashed as well as the speaker. Fingers crossed on my replacement, Adorama and UPS never gave me any grief, but I'll cancel if this one is broken as well.

    I did also order a telescope from them, I was far more worried about that and it arrived without a scratch....
  • ivanlee13ivanlee13 Posts: 21
    Yikes, sorry to hear that your unit got smashed. I was lucky with my 706c, it came in perfect condition from FedEx, not even a ding on the box. The 707s from UPS (Best Buy Canada) though as treated very poorly from the UPS driver, he literally pushed the box across my entire driveway and scratched both boxes up. Luckily, the speakers were okay and everything turned out fine.
  • DermDerm Posts: 46
    ivanlee13 wrote: »
    Yikes, sorry to hear that your unit got smashed. I was lucky with my 706c, it came in perfect condition from FedEx, not even a ding on the box. The 707s from UPS (Best Buy Canada) though as treated very poorly from the UPS driver, he literally pushed the box across my entire driveway and scratched both boxes up. Luckily, the speakers were okay and everything turned out fine.

    How are you liking the new 707/6c set up Ivan?


    I haven't used my system other than testing the 707's and 703's to be sure they worked so I cannot say yet how the CsiA6 is doing blending in.
    Adorama is selling 706c for $499 again.....so tempting.


    Speakers
    Front - RTiA9 (2 pair) + LsiM707
    Front presence - RTiA3 + LsiM703
    Center - CSiA6
    Rear surrounds - FXiA4
    Sub - (pair) Klipsch R-12SW
    Zone 2 - BlackStone TL1

    AVR - Yamaha RX-A3010
    AMP - NAD C275BEE
    Main HT - LG 50” plasma, Yamaha BD-S671 & Sony UBXP800

    Bedroom HT setup - LG 55" 4K, Philips BDP7501 4K UHD player , Yamaha SRT-1500 sound projector

    Office - Pioneer X-CM56, Bose iPod dock
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