Anyone ever hear those big Japanese systems?

I was watching audiophile videos on youtube and found a lot of videos from Japan. They seem to love restored Vintage American equipments.

Some have seriously huge high end gear in very small rooms. I had never seen anything like it. Judging by the audio (on good quality vids), they seem to sound fantastic in those rooms.

Just wondering if anyone here have heard one of these systems? What did you think?

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  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 954
    edited December 2018
    Not in person I have not. You probably came across Kenrick Sound in Japan.

    http://kenricksound.com/

    Kenrick has some great demo video on YouTube.

    They specialize in the old JBL studio speakers like the 4345 and so on
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,250
    edited December 2018
    Some of us go that Asian style route -- single-ended, direct-heated triode amplification and big, generally horn loaded loudspeakers. :)

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    Yes, I have heard many such systems -- it doesn't get any better in terms of scale, dynamics, and emotion.

    Many modern loudspeakers simply suck the life out of music.
    Just my opinion, of course -- hardly a humble one, though.

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,250
    Two other thoughts.

    1. Big hifis (generally) sound even better given a little room to breathe.

    2. As in automobilia, when it comes to loudspeakers and dynamics -- there's no replacement for displacement.


    B)
  • CH46E wrote: »
    Not in person I have not. You probably came across Kenrick Sound in Japan.

    http://kenricksound.com/

    Kenrick has some great demo video on YouTube.

    They specialize in the old JBL studio speakers like the 4345 and so on

    Yes! It was Kenrick. I've been watching a lot of their videos. One that really stood out for me was the JBL Paragon delivery to a very nice home. That one went to a bigger room.

    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Two other thoughts.

    1. Big hifis (generally) sound even better given a little room to breathe.

    2. As in automobilia, when it comes to loudspeakers and dynamics -- there's no replacement for displacement.


    B)

    Thanks for sharing the pics. Your set ups are amazing. I remember seeing some of them back in the old forums. I always drool when I see your horn set ups.
    Before I downsized to the low end system I have now, I had a pair of La Scala and several SET amps. Still miss the LS.
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,310
    Not a good example of a Japanese system simply because the room is too big.9km5vncxxuql.jpg
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SRS 2, SDA 2B, SDA II,SDA 1C, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11TL, RTA 8TL, RTA 8T, LSI9 Ebony, LSI7 EBONY, LSI7 CHERRY, LSIC, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,310
    This is a Japanese system.071y5ht8eres.jpg
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SRS 2, SDA 2B, SDA II,SDA 1C, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11TL, RTA 8TL, RTA 8T, LSI9 Ebony, LSI7 EBONY, LSI7 CHERRY, LSIC, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • Here ya go :)

  • la2vegas wrote: »
    This is a Japanese system.071y5ht8eres.jpg

    You beat me by a few seconds :)
  • NhpennNhpenn Posts: 56
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    Where does all this stuff even come from? You rarely see any of it for sale
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,250
    la2vegas wrote: »
    Not a good example of a Japanese system simply because the room is too big.9km5vncxxuql.jpg

    yeah, yeah -- :p
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,250
    Nhpenn wrote: »
    ssecg1zhj4ci.jpg

    Where does all this stuff even come from? You rarely see any of it for sale

    chance favors the prepared mind.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,250
    For example, you could've been at the European Triode Festival a couple of weeks ago :)
    https://flic.kr/s/aHsmw9QsUS

    31038255517_779500d473_h.jpgetf18_036 by Holger Barske, on Flickr

    32106318168_9c9fd6f6ed_h.jpgetf18_079 by Holger Barske, on Flickr
  • CH46ECH46E Posts: 954
    I would really like a pair of thier JBL 4301b.

  • Moss_ManMoss_Man Posts: 28
    edited December 2018
    Nhpenn wrote: »
    ssecg1zhj4ci.jpg

    Where does all this stuff even come from? You rarely see any of it for sale

    Had to do a double take on that. At first I thought it was a picture frame up there between the speakers. It's a bass horn omg!
    CH46E wrote: »
    I would really like a pair of thier JBL 4301b.


    The one I want is right behind those. The JBL Paragon.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,589
    I had the opportunity to get a JBL Metregon but passed. It would have been interesting to play with but I think they were modified with a new driver or something. I can't remember now.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
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  • aprazer402aprazer402 Posts: 1,368
    edited December 2018


    I was really digging the Burmester 100 phono pre-amp in this video at 20 seconds in. Did some quick searching and now I know why I liked it, $20,000 retail. It is a beauty. I'll have to just keep on liking, but not having. Which is how it goes in this hobby, in life too. It's way above what my phono equipment would benefit from anyway. Like feeding strawberries to a pig. :)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,250
    speaking of "ETF", saw a link at audioasylum today for this little musing by Herb Reichert:
    https://www.audiostream.com/content/secret-societies-audiophile
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 179
    Nhpenn wrote: »
    ssecg1zhj4ci.jpg

    Where does all this stuff even come from? You rarely see any of it for sale
    You rarely see it because those Asian markets started buying them up at “cost no object” prices.
    Now anyone that still might be hanging on to these knows where they can unload them too.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
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    MastersounD Dueventi > JBL Studio 580 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,905
    edited February 1
    Moss_Man wrote: »
    Nhpenn wrote: »
    ssecg1zhj4ci.jpg

    Where does all this stuff even come from? You rarely see any of it for sale

    Had to do a double take on that. At first I thought it was a picture frame up there between the speakers. It's a bass horn omg!

    Yes I've seen this picture at least twice and for some reason my eyes went right to that today :smile: I want to hear that sucker he he
    CH46E wrote: »
    I would really like a pair of thier JBL 4301b.

    Moss_Man wrote: »
    The one I want is right behind those. The JBL Paragon.

    Looks like they're two paragons in that room or the other might be a metrogon. The other is along the wall to the left. Either way the finish on the Paragon behind the JBL's is fantastic ! a lot of elbow work went into that.

  • Tony MTony M Posts: 7,622
    Nhpenn wrote: »
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    Where does all this stuff even come from? You rarely see any of it for sale

    It's like the old saying
    If you want to know the price, you can't afford it.


    I thought to myself after reading your post;

    I don't know where these special speakers and things come from either and the reason might be, I can't even get into that circle of people who know where to find them AND can afford them. So it's like this to me, If I don't know where to buy these...I can't afford them. :s

    I couldn't afford the cables, stands and racks for a lot of this super high end stereo stuff. But I sure would like to sit and listen for a while. ;) :p B) :D
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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