Backert Labs

tonybtonyb Posts: 31,430
edited October 2018 in 2 Channel Audio
I know some here have picked up a pre from them, how about sounding off and telling us how your getting along.

Still diggin' it ? Sound change some after breaking in ? Whats everyone pairing them with ? Comparisons to other pre's ? Anyone move up the ladder ?

Feed back gents, and maybe we can talk Andy into another round of demo's next spring.

I say next spring because nobody wants to be shipping stuff like this around during the holiday shipping frenzy.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds

Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

Kitchen

Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1430
Tad 803 speakers

Comments

  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,027
    U talk'n ta me?

    R U talk'n ta me!!??

    IIRC, there's just one other cat besides myself that owns one . . .
    Long short. I cannot comment just yet, bc it's been a PFB cluster FFF of a summer!!
    Unless you're into Debbie Downers, you do not want details

    Good news is that I'll be getting the Rhumba back in a couple of weeks

    Some history:
    I bought an early production Rhumba from a local cat on A'gon. Turns out I'm 3rd owner in a (relatively) short period of time . . .

    Rhumba sounds fine and she holds her own. No issues except for the bent toggle switch (as delivered from previous owner). I posted a comment, and Andy reached out saying that it might be warranted for a factory inspection.
    On the Backert dime . . . Nice!

    Again, long short: I opted for upgrades

    Fron Backert web site:
    4. The Mundorf caps are $400 installed and give the unit more resolution in the midrange. Just a more clear light shining on those key mid frequencies.

    5. Better caps throughout - $70 installed, gives the unit more clear and deeper sound. Maybe a little more bass but mostly clarity and depth.

    THEN, I decided to ditch the black chassis and go with RED!!
    in a word SEXY

    fast forward

    THEN, Andy calls and says they found a way to improve bass. Who says no to that?

    Shipped the biotch back . . .

    Andy says she sounds fan-frick'n-tastik . . . . Lucky Dog!

    I'll be in that camp soon . . . .

    T-man, I'm gonna PM you. As I have an offer you might not be able to refuse ...
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Center Salk HT2C
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Wires WW & MIT
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,430

    THEN, Andy calls and says they found a way to improve bass. Who says no to that?


    LMAO....Andy's a character eh. I thought you had it in your possession for awhile. Sorry about that.

    Anyway, post up some thoughts when you get some time with the new girlfriend in the red dress.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 1,341
    Does anyone want to talk about this pre?

    What does "Bob Backert’s patented GreenForce™ power supply" do when you hit the switch?

    Those V-Caps are darn expensive...

    the 1.1 has a mono/stereo switch... I wonder what it is doing internally...
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,430
    SIHAB wrote: »
    Does anyone want to talk about this pre?

    What does "Bob Backert’s patented GreenForce™ power supply" do when you hit the switch?

    Those V-Caps are darn expensive...

    the 1.1 has a mono/stereo switch... I wonder what it is doing internally...

    They have a membership here so you can PM Andy any questions you may have or visit their website.

    We did a demo round here last year from the very generous people down at Backert labs. Andy, Bob, and countless faces behind the curtain are all top notch.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 1,280
    I’ve still got my Rhumba 1.0. Love it to death, don’t see any reason to replace it with anything else. Simply superb sound. Settled on some NOS Mullards in it and haven’t looked back. I can only compare to the TEAC integrateds I had before and the setup kills the integrateds all the way around. The only issue I have with it is some low level noise with no music playing but I’ve gotten used to it.

    Paired equipment is relatively modest, B&K Ref 250 amp, Focal Aria 926 speakers, Music Hall MMF 7.3 tt/Marantz 8005 SACD/Bluesound Node 2 as the sources, mix of Wireworld and Acoustic Zen wiring.

    Still have to say the customer service provided by Backert is second to none, and that is reason enough to own one.
    2 Channel - Major reduction complete

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,430
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I’ve still got my Rhumba 1.0. Love it to death, don’t see any reason to replace it with anything else. Simply superb sound. Settled on some NOS Mullards in it and haven’t looked back. I can only compare to the TEAC integrateds I had before and the setup kills the integrateds all the way around. The only issue I have with it is some low level noise with no music playing but I’ve gotten used to it.

    Paired equipment is relatively modest, B&K Ref 250 amp, Focal Aria 926 speakers, Music Hall MMF 7.3 tt/Marantz 8005 SACD/Bluesound Node 2 as the sources, mix of Wireworld and Acoustic Zen wiring.

    Still have to say the customer service provided by Backert is second to none, and that is reason enough to own one.

    Cool man. I'm also using some AZ/Wireworld cables, they mix well together and compliment each other nicely. Nice system you put together there btw, can't imagine anyone not being happy with that sound.

    The low level noise in the Rhumba your experiencing may just be noise in your electrical circuit or a bad ground somewhere else in the system. She was dead quiet when I had one on demo. A good power conditioner might clean that up some. Anyway, nice to hear your still enjoying it.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,027
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I’ve still got my Rhumba 1.0. Love it to death, don’t see any reason to replace it with anything else. Simply superb sound. The only issue I have with it is some low level noise with no music playing but I’ve gotten used to it.

    I bet the low level noise can be gotten rid of toot-sweet.

    Contact Andy, give him your serial # and tell him of the issue

    My Rhumba was one of the first iterations. I think that's one reason Andy offered to have their Service Dept/Bob give it the "once over" ...

    There's a recent (modestly priced) development that improves bass

    Talk To Andy for your options. Just say'n ...
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Center Salk HT2C
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Wires WW & MIT
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