speaking of Schiit

It appears that they've spiffed up -- or S/PDIF'd up, if you prefer B) -- their 99 dolla DAC. I figure this is either very interesting or very not interesting; I don't keep up with this stuff, so I am not really sure... but it seemed worthy of mention.

https://darko.audio/2018/09/schiit-introduce-modi-3-dac-still-us99/
http://www.schiit.com/products/modi-1

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,121
    I was excited to get the first modi as that was where my budget for a DAC fell at the time. There was a lot of buzz about how good it sounded and it was a killer at that price. It was quite possibly the worst DAC I've ever heard. I've heard several of their pieces since and realize their products are simply not for me.

    I hope they stepped up their game in other areas.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,937
    Skip I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this latest iteration of their Modi DAC, especially knowing what you know now vs. then.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,121
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Skip I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this latest iteration of their Modi DAC, especially knowing what you know now vs. then.

    Honestly even the Yggdrasil did not suck me in. It's a decent piece for the money but their gear follows more of the traditional hifi sound which is not what I pursue. I don't think they're bad values but bad fits for me personally.

    The Modi had nothing to suck me in whatsoever. I don't mind giving it a run but I think most people would find more enjoyment with the iFi products for not a lot more.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • machonemachone Posts: 1,018
    DSkip said:

    "Honestly even the Yggdrasil did not suck me in. It's a decent piece for the money but their gear follows more of the traditional hifi sound which is not what I pursue."

    Skip, can you try to describe the sound that you pursue versus a traditional hifi sound?

    Thanks
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,937
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,121
    edited September 26
    machone wrote: »
    DSkip said:

    "Honestly even the Yggdrasil did not suck me in. It's a decent piece for the money but their gear follows more of the traditional hifi sound which is not what I pursue."

    Skip, can you try to describe the sound that you pursue versus a traditional hifi sound?

    Thanks

    For me traditional hifi is about pursuing the nth degree of detail at the expense of musicality. I prefer the opposite approach - musicality at the expense of detail. I've always erred to musicality when a choice had to be made as having something that captivates you rather than capturing your attention.

    Schiit makes good gear. The models I've heard all lacked some of the life the music should have. The Yggdrasil is a great DAC but it didn't pull me into the music. Images were pinpoint not only in location, but in size. That doesn't engage me. A system needs to have soul and body to it and I've found these to be the missing components in every system I've heard with Schiit in it.

    I'm a single-ended tube guy. That should explain quite well what I'm about. :smile:

    Honestly, the industry is shaping up some though. Musicality and engagement is becoming more paramount for the big boys as chasing the details has about worn out its time.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,729
    DSkip wrote: »
    machone wrote: »
    DSkip said:

    "Honestly even the Yggdrasil did not suck me in. It's a decent piece for the money but their gear follows more of the traditional hifi sound which is not what I pursue."

    Skip, can you try to describe the sound that you pursue versus a traditional hifi sound?

    Thanks

    For me traditional hifi is about pursuing the nth degree of detail at the expense of musicality. I prefer the opposite approach - musicality at the expense of detail. I've always erred to musicality when a choice had to be made as having something that captivates you rather than capturing your attention.

    Schiit makes good gear. The models I've heard all lacked some of the life the music should have. The Yggdrasil is a great DAC but it didn't pull me into the music. Images were pinpoint not only in location, but in size. That doesn't engage me. A system needs to have soul and body to it and I've found these to be the missing components in every system I've heard with Schiit in it.

    I'm a single-ended tube guy. That should explain quite well what I'm about. :smile:

    Honestly, the industry is shaping up some though. Musicality and engagement is becoming more paramount for the big boys as chasing the details has about worn out its time.

    I find it harder to achieve just that type of sound on a budget. It's what I am chasing and having to piece together one by one and it will take me some serious time to get it all where it needs to be. The fun is the chase though right?!

    Soundstage, stereo separation and musicality is what I am looking to focus on.
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  • machonemachone Posts: 1,018
    Thanks Skip...

    Detailed sound does catch my attention for a moment but musicality is what draws me into the music and keeps me listening.
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 24 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod)>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Marantz SA 8005
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • ALL212ALL212 Posts: 842
    DSkip wrote: »

    I'm a single-ended tube guy. That should explain quite well what I'm about. :smile:

    .

    You can “fix” this!

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    Aaron
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,121
    That rig has some serious 'head' to it!
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
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