Help identifying old speaker model

TallMidget20

So I picked these speakers up at a thrift store (old vintage polk speakers had too right?), anyways the sticker on the back was peeled off so now I'm stuck trying to figure out what model these are, I took them apart too look at the drivers and couldn't find much other than the assembly date which was 06/04/1993. So we got a date to go by, any guesses? I'll attach a picture of the front with the grille off

pitdogg2

S model maybe but I never have known the S model to have that tweeter personally

FestYboy

Most likely an S4 varient, but all the S series that I can find show a dome tweet, and the 4s have a port. What's the back look like?

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skrol

They were simply called "Monitor" in 1992 along with the "Mini-Monitor".

krazypolk

skrol wrote: »

They were simply called "Monitor" in 1992 along with the "Mini-Monitor".

You sir are a wealth of knowledge.

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skrol

Yep2 wrote: »

krazypolk wrote: »

skrol wrote: »

They were simply called "Monitor" in 1992 along with the "Mini-Monitor".

You sir are a wealth of knowledge.

He has a gift of Google.

No, I am a pack rat and have the original sales brochure. Want any other info on vintage Polks?

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TallMidget20

@skrol yeah that’d be great if you could please

skrol

Well that is a scan of the actual brochure. I can take a pic and post it if you like.

PSOVLSK

skrol wrote: »

Well that is a scan of the actual brochure. I can take a pic and post it if you like.

If you take a picture of it, I'll believe you. I just can't bring myself to trust a scanned image

mhardy6647

Kind of remarkable how similar that "Mini-Monitor" appears to have been to the (roughly contemporaneous -- I think?!) Cambridge Soundworks Model Seventeen.

CSW17 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

mhardy6647

To me (FWIW), all of the tweeters above appear to be variants of that rather hideous, and virtually ubiquitous, cheap Audax (if memory serves) 0.75" Mylar dome tweeter. Them suckas seemed to lurk under the grille cloths of virtually every cheap loudspeaker for a decade or more ca. the late 20th/early 21st Century.

mhardy6647

skrol wrote: »

Yep2 wrote: »

krazypolk wrote: »

skrol wrote: »

They were simply called "Monitor" in 1992 along with the "Mini-Monitor".

You sir are a wealth of knowledge.

He has a gift of Google.

No, I am a pack rat and have the original sales brochure. Want any other info on vintage Polks?

aww... go 'head & take the credit you're due!

Viking64

mhardy6647 wrote: »

To me (FWIW), all of the tweeters above appear to be variants of that rather hideous, and virtually ubiquitous, cheap Audax (if memory serves) 0.75" Mylar dome tweeter. Them suckas seemed to lurk under the grille cloths of virtually every cheap loudspeaker for a decade or more ca. the late 20th/early 21st Century.

My 4.5s had them. My 4.6s that I bought a year or so later had a Polk tweeter. As my local Polk dealer who just happened to be within walking distance of VPR used to say: The "sweeter tweeter".

mhardy6647

ahhh, Fort Ethan Allen...

mhardy6647

oh, speaking of cheap tweeters -- I guess the hot new technology is wireless tweeters.



source: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/one-way-wintage-speakers-can’t-compete-with-modern-ones-wireless-tweeters.837788/#post-11972232

krazypolk

mhardy6647 wrote: »

oh, speaking of cheap tweeters -- I guess the hot new technology is wireless tweeters.



source: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/one-way-wintage-speakers-can’t-compete-with-modern-ones-wireless-tweeters.837788/#post-11972232

Very disappointing.

skrol

Passive tweeters! That is inconceivable.
I've heard of them but they are not very common due to their very low output level but have zero distortion.

pitdogg2

Bluetooth who needs stinkin wire

krazypolk

The only other time I've seen dummy tweets was in White Van speaker scams.

mhardy6647

There was a trend ca. early 1980s in rack mount and all in one stereos to play all sorts of games, including but not limited to.

Painted circles (typically white) behind the grilles on black baffles, resembling MR and/or tweeter drivers
"diffusers" on reflex ports that simulated drivers (MR or tweeters, usually)
small woofers with big trim rings (typically plastic).
cone tweeters with JBL vane-style "diffusers".


Some of these atrocities were commited by (once) well-respected names in consumer hifi audio, too!

Here's a good example, albeit at a slightly higher level than the department store all-in-ones, as described (in his inimitable way) by Steve "Decware" Deckert.

http://www.decware.com/paper10.htm


(and, of course, we know that passive radiators aren't evil a priori... )

pkquat

mhardy6647 wrote: »

To me (FWIW), all of the tweeters above appear to be variants of that rather hideous, and virtually ubiquitous, cheap Audax (if memory serves) 0.75" Mylar dome tweeter. Them suckas seemed to lurk under the grille cloths of virtually every cheap loudspeaker for a decade or more ca. the late 20th/early 21st Century.

The Polks were much better IMO, but they did have the cheap look. I don't know which came first. I think they were made in Japan, possibly by Kawasaki or some company that starts with a K. There were a few versions of this tweeter used by a number of companies.

mhardy6647 wrote: »

oh, speaking of cheap tweeters -- I guess the hot new technology is wireless tweeters.

source: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/one-way-wintage-speakers-can’t-compete-with-modern-ones-wireless-tweeters.837788/#post-11972232

Those are the logitech Z333 speakers. I guess at first some places actually advertised them as 2-way not knowing. Its really sad coming from logitech, but this is not their first pair to have fake tweeters.
They remind me of my first pair of "computer" speakers that "would not affect the monitor". They had a 4" "woofer" with a larger surround so it looked like it had some good throw, and it was a two-way speaker. The tweeters did tweet. I got them on clearance for $8. They actually didn't sound horrible, but the woofer didn't move much. I thought they were shielded, but the magnet was only about the size of my thumb. The woofer had the throw, but the coil / amp couldn't push it. After about 5 months one of the tweeters fell out. It was attached just like the pic with glue, accept it had two barely there motor wires that had been sandwiched between two pieces of the fiberboard cabinet. The tweeter was a watch size piezo tweeter with a plastic dome glued to the outside diameter and a pinhole. The built in amp lasted about a year, and the outside fiberboard started to warp. With enough power the woofers did move and were better than expected until they burned out.

TallMidget20

i really appreciate the help so far thanks for the brochure and stuff, i'm still having trouble finding more about them on the internet but i think ill find something

skrol

These were pretty entry level Polk speakers. I'm not sure that you are going to find much on them. They do look to utilize the dynamic balance woofer, which is a plus.

MPD0311

Hi I need help identifying a set of polks but should I start a new thread or just can work off this one?

Tony M

MPD0311 wrote: »

Hi I need help identifying a set of polks but should I start a new thread or just can work off this one?

Carry on in this one.

Whatchagot?

liamwinter

mhardy6647 wrote: »

oh, speaking of cheap tweeters -- I guess the hot new technology is wireless tweeters.



source: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/one-way-wintage-speakers-can%E2%80%99t-compete-with-modern-ones-wireless-tweeters.837788/#post-11972232

its lit