Thinking about upgrading my RX-A720

MilitoMilito Posts: 267
I don't have near the knowledge base as 99% of you in this forum so I thought I would ask for some opinions.

I recently bought a pair of S55's and a S30 that are in a room that is 16 ft wide and 16.5 deep. I also have one PSW 505. I don't have the room for a surround setup in this house so I will always be running 3.1 setup, maybe moving to a 3.1.2 sometime in the future.

I have thought about moving up to a refurnished 2070 or 3060. My listening mix is 40% music and 60% TV and movies. Would I gain much from moving up to a better AVR?

We may be moving in 5 years or so and if we do I will look for a house that has a room I can run a surround setup in.

Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,379
    I would guess that the 2070/3060 would sound much better (for music at least) just because they are better units. They will also probably have a better power supply than your cheaper one, so they may push a little more power, a slightly lower impedance, run cooler, etc. I use daily my old Yamaha RX-v665 for 2 channel, then 2.1, then 3.1 for a long time, and it sounded really good if I recall. Not as good as my Technics I have now for straight 2 channel music, but still, really good. I still have it running today actually on some Boston CR75s. I imagine for movies it will probably be better, but not as drastically as for music.
    I would say that it is probably worth the move. But do remember that if those receivers are not as high resolution as your current one, then the video quality may take a hit.
    Keep in mind I don’t know a ton about any of the receivers on your list, other than their place in the food chain, and audio related specs. I’ve never listened to any of them, although I’ve heard they sound quite good.
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,896
    The only reason I could see to upgrade any reciever, running a 3.1 set up is for newer sound codex or 4K capabilities.
    I think that AVR has most of the current sound decoding programs.

    Don’t think it has pre-outs, so if you want to add an amp in the future, that would be reason enough. Don’t really think it would be worth it to upgrade to a newer AVR for music. I don’t think the improvement would justify the cost, strictly using the AVR, without an amp.
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,873
    There is a vast difference going from the lower to the higher end Yamahas. You should definitely notice an improvement. Plenty of power in the 2070 or 3060, and you shouldn't need an amp to run those 3 speakers with an AVR of that caliber.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    Thanks for the input.

    I'm trying to sell the 720 right now and waiting to see if the prices go down with the new models coming out.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,294
    Really if you don’t need the extra channels, and it sounds like you don’t, go for the 1000 series.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,890
    edited June 2018
    Really if you don’t need the extra channels, and it sounds like you don’t, go for the 1000 series.

    I agree. The 1000 series sound great, have more power and preouts. You don’t need the extra channels or power so the 2000 series would be a waste of money...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Definitive Technology ProCenter 2000, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo, Squeezebox Touch
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    I'm an old guy and we live in a 2 story house right now, but we will move to a one story probably within 5 years. I will be looking for a house then where I can set up a surround system so I want to get something that I don't have to upgrade later.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,890
    Milito wrote: »
    I'm an old guy and we live in a 2 story house right now, but we will move to a one story probably within 5 years. I will be looking for a house then where I can set up a surround system so I want to get something that I don't have to upgrade later.

    I understand where you are coming from, but chances are in five years you will need to upgrade. 8K (16, 24???) and who knows what audio codecs will be the standard in 5 years lol...

    And besides, if you are just looking to upgrade to 5.1.2, then the 1000 series will do that for you.
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Definitive Technology ProCenter 2000, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo, Squeezebox Touch
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,675
    I agree with the above and get an RX-A10XX AVR. S55 and an S30 don't need that much power to sound good. In the future if more power/channels are needed then you can add an amp to the system.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,873
    In my experience, yes, the most improvement in sound starts with the 10xx series.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    The reason I was considering going higher than a 1070 is I can get a 2060 for an additional $100.00 at accessories4less or a 2070 or 3060 for an additional $250.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,675
    Milito wrote: »
    The reason I was considering going higher than a 1070 is I can get a 2060 for an additional $100.00 at accessories4less or a 2070 or 3060 for an additional $250.

    It's your money. If it was me I would save the $100, not much difference is sound quality once you go above the 10XX AVR.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    Just looking at all of my options, I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.

    I do appreciate all of the feedback.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
    The additional $250 is enough for (or most of) a good B&K or Parasound amplifier.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,873
    It all depends on what you want and can afford. I think there ARE incremental, but noticeable, improvements as you go up the line. For me, I moved from 1010 to 2040, several years ago, mostly for the use of additional channels.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    So is accessories4less safe to buy from?

    Any sites any of you would suggest for a new one at a good price?
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,294
    A4L is A OK. Buy with confidence.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,675
    Milito wrote: »
    So is accessories4less safe to buy from?

    Any sites any of you would suggest for a new one at a good price?

    5 different people I know have ordered from there with no problem.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    I had heard mostly good about them with a few bad comments, but you'll get that with just about any vendor.

    Thanks again for the comments.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,896
    Bought an RX-A2060 from them little over a year ago. Not a mark on it, running flawlessly. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy from them again.
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 267
    Well I just ordered an RX-A2070 from them as I sold my RX-A720.

    Now if I can just get my house put back together as major foundation work in the den area where my setup goes. New wood floors next week to replace the ones they had to go thru to put the new piers in.

    Hurts me to think of what I could have used all of that money for. Oh well, the joys of owning a home.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Outlaw 5000, VTF-2 MK5, Signature S55, S30, Sony BPD-S3200, Technics PD867, Audio-Technica AT-LP60, AudioQuest Type 4 Speaker Cable, AudioQuest Black Mamba II Interconnects, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F.
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