Sprout100

tonyb
tonyb Posts: 32,962
in 2 Channel Audio
https://www.psaudio.com/sprout100/

Little booger is loaded, and for 600 bucks looks to be a bargain for all you get.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    edited May 2018
    [EDIT] FWIW, here's Stereophile's take on the original Sprout:

    https://www.stereophile.com/content/ps-audio-sprout-integrated-amplifier

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    FWIW^2 here is a photo of the innards of the original Sprout.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    edited May 2018
    [EDIT] ... it says "vinyl" on the front panel :#

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Ya know Doc, for a reviewer in such a prestigious Audio mag. to be using Radio shack USB and IC's, one has to wonder about the validity of his review. Granted, he switched out cables eventually to AQ, but just the fact he's reviewing gear with Radio shack cables throws up red flags for me.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    Very nice.
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  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    Nice little package which would be perfect for an office system.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    It is a nice little all in one package, isn't it?
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    Kind of like the ELAC EA101EQ-G
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    erniejade wrote: »
    Kind of like the ELAC EA101EQ-G

    Of which I knew nothing 'til you mentioned it! :p

    https://www.elac.com/product/debut-series-da101eq-g-integrated-amplifier/

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    It is interesting that the manufacturers (distributors) of these sorts of amplifiers spec only 1kHz THD. The Stereophile review of the original Sprout was somewhat revealing (although the undefeatable LF boost of he original morph of the Sprout sort of complicated measurement thereof).

    It is a plus that the LF boost is defeatable on the new and improved Sprout 100 :)
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    I really like what PS Audio is doing these days. Like the products, though I haven't heard this piece (the Sprout is what Paul, the owner, uses at his home) and their customer service is incredible.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Still wish i didn’t sell my “original” sprout but feel the $600 price tag is pretty steep for this product. The volume control vie remote is nice this time around.
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Still wish i didn’t sell my “original” sprout but feel the $600 price tag is pretty steep for this product. The volume control vie remote is nice this time around.

    I did not know (or, more likely, did not remember :p ) that you had had a Sprout!

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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 504
    edited May 2018
    Nice tidy little integrated.
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Still wish i didn’t sell my “original” sprout but feel the $600 price tag is pretty steep for this product. The volume control vie remote is nice this time around.

    You're kidding, right? $600 for 100 wpc, asychronous DAC with it's capabilities, variable sub output, phono stage, built in Bluetooth...

    Sounds like a nobrainer to me.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    I read this someplace else, and strictly FWIW:
    ... TEAC AI-301DA. Same B&O amp module now, similar feature set. Sprout100 has onboard phono and pre-outs. AI-301DA has additional line and digital coaxial input , and can be had ~$300 cheaper [than the Sprout 100]

    Thoughts?

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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,642
    I have always been curious about how the TEAC compares to the Sprout.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    The two most obvious differences between the two are:

    1) The TEAC is only 22W into 8 ohms, and the Sprout is 50W.

    2) The Sprout has a phono ["vinyl"] input and the TEAC has none.

    How they might compare in SQ is another issue.
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 504
    I would probably say Elac would be a close competitor can be found under 600, close to the sprouts 599 price point.

    Elac vs Sprout
    Pros:
    Offers sub blending room EQ.
    More inputs,+1 Optical, +1 Coax, +1 RCA

    Cons:
    Less power (40wpc 8ohms)
    No phono input
    No preamp output
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    • Home Theater-9.7.6/15.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x6], Height LSiM703 [x6], HSU ULS-15Mk2x4, VTF-15HMk2x2, VTF-TN1 | Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (2024) | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Martin Logan MP500x2 | Topping DX7s, E50 | AppleTV 4K | Zidoo Z9X | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Sony UBP-X800 | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.1 B&W Formation Duo and Bass
    • Orphans Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX | DSW microPRO3000x2 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz AV8805A
    • Daughter's Bedroom 1-2.0 TBD Martin Logan Forte | Roku TV
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | SMSL DO100 Pro 2 | Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    Elac is supposed to be coming out with a version that also has a built in streamer, it all depends on what your needs are.

    The Sprout is great for the money especially if your into LP.
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    edited May 2018
    Moose68Bash wrote: »
    The two most obvious differences between the two are:

    1) The TEAC is only 22W into 8 ohms, and the Sprout is 50W.

    2) The Sprout has a phono ["vinyl"] input and the TEAC has none.

    How they might compare in SQ is another issue.

    I had the Teac at one point thinking it was a no brainer at that price. I couldn't get past the terrible sound quality and sent it back. Owning a PS Audio Directstrem DAC, I can say I like what they do with that DAC. I'm not sure how that translates to their use of the Sabre chipset, but, I'm hopeful given what they've been doing with their other pieces. Hopefully they'll run it for $499 during the holidays, again, and I'll grab one for the kitchen/coffee shop.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    Correct. 100 per ice power Elac is 40 per class AB
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    erniejade wrote: »
    Correct. 100 per ice power Elac is 40 per class AB

    The streamer aspect is interesting, going to keep an eye out for that.
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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,642
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Moose68Bash wrote: »
    The two most obvious differences between the two are:

    1) The TEAC is only 22W into 8 ohms, and the Sprout is 50W.

    2) The Sprout has a phono ["vinyl"] input and the TEAC has none.

    How they might compare in SQ is another issue.

    I had the Teac at one point thinking it was a no brainer at that price. I couldn't get past the terrible sound quality and sent it back.

    That was my concern. I am curious of what the sound quality will be with the Sprout. It looks like it has potential to maybe go into an office set up I am going to do in the future.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Hopefully they'll run it for $499 during the holidays, again, and I'll grab one for the kitchen/coffee shop.

    No, i’m Not kidding, and you just made my point.
    $499 is a better price for this particular piece. That is was i bought my original sprout for and it came with an AC3.
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    I was already questioning your line of thinking and rationalizing my last statement makes me wonder even more. You went from inferring it should be priced like the Teac to saying I prove your point by hoping for $100 off on a holiday sale makes no sense. I'd buy it at its price point as I feel it offers a great value. I don't need one at the moment or I would buy it at this price. When my house work gets done I'll probably have a perfect spot for it, and on sale or not, it'll be what I get. Hoping to save $100 if it's on sale in no way proves your point.

    I believe it offers a great value from what I can see and know about the company from previous experience.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    Decent review of the unit here

    https://www.dagogo.com/ps-audio-sprout100-integrated-amplifier-review/
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  • OldSchoolPolk
    OldSchoolPolk Posts: 159
    The Sprout nails looks and versatility. And all the reviews I've read agree it nails sound quality. I need a remote so the S100 is the complete package.

    I just want to get a line on the SVS SoundBase when it comes out in the Fall. Might be good completion.
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