Sprout100

tonybtonyb Posts: 31,711
https://www.psaudio.com/sprout100/

Little booger is loaded, and for 600 bucks looks to be a bargain for all you get.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds

Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

Kitchen

Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1430
Tad 803 speakers

Comments

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,049
    edited May 2018
    [EDIT] FWIW, here's Stereophile's take on the original Sprout:

    https://www.stereophile.com/content/ps-audio-sprout-integrated-amplifier

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    FWIW^2 here is a photo of the innards of the original Sprout.

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,049
    edited May 2018
    [EDIT] ... it says "vinyl" on the front panel :#

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,711
    Ya know Doc, for a reviewer in such a prestigious Audio mag. to be using Radio shack USB and IC's, one has to wonder about the validity of his review. Granted, he switched out cables eventually to AQ, but just the fact he's reviewing gear with Radio shack cables throws up red flags for me.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • minerminer Posts: 1,283
    Nice little package which would be perfect for an office system.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,049
    It is a nice little all in one package, isn't it?
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,153
    Kind of like the ELAC EA101EQ-G
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R, Tyler Highland H2, Aries Mini, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac 11, W4S recovery, Wireworld Platinum Starlight, PS Audio Direct Stream JR.

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,049
    erniejade wrote: »
    Kind of like the ELAC EA101EQ-G

    Of which I knew nothing 'til you mentioned it! :p

    https://www.elac.com/product/debut-series-da101eq-g-integrated-amplifier/

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    It is interesting that the manufacturers (distributors) of these sorts of amplifiers spec only 1kHz THD. The Stereophile review of the original Sprout was somewhat revealing (although the undefeatable LF boost of he original morph of the Sprout sort of complicated measurement thereof).

    It is a plus that the LF boost is defeatable on the new and improved Sprout 100 :)
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    I really like what PS Audio is doing these days. Like the products, though I haven't heard this piece (the Sprout is what Paul, the owner, uses at his home) and their customer service is incredible.
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 5,183
    Still wish i didn’t sell my “original” sprout but feel the $600 price tag is pretty steep for this product. The volume control vie remote is nice this time around.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,049
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Still wish i didn’t sell my “original” sprout but feel the $600 price tag is pretty steep for this product. The volume control vie remote is nice this time around.

    I did not know (or, more likely, did not remember :p ) that you had had a Sprout!

  • mpitogompitogo Posts: 398
    edited May 2018
    Nice tidy little integrated.
    Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C47 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Denon DP-2500A | Apple Music Laptop via USB
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    Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570
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    Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Living Room (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all.
    Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Klipsch RP-600M, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500, PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks
    Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Still wish i didn’t sell my “original” sprout but feel the $600 price tag is pretty steep for this product. The volume control vie remote is nice this time around.

    You're kidding, right? $600 for 100 wpc, asychronous DAC with it's capabilities, variable sub output, phono stage, built in Bluetooth...

    Sounds like a nobrainer to me.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,049
    I read this someplace else, and strictly FWIW:
    ... TEAC AI-301DA. Same B&O amp module now, similar feature set. Sprout100 has onboard phono and pre-outs. AI-301DA has additional line and digital coaxial input , and can be had ~$300 cheaper [than the Sprout 100]

    Thoughts?

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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,368
    I have always been curious about how the TEAC compares to the Sprout.
  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,642
    The two most obvious differences between the two are:

    1) The TEAC is only 22W into 8 ohms, and the Sprout is 50W.

    2) The Sprout has a phono ["vinyl"] input and the TEAC has none.

    How they might compare in SQ is another issue.
    Family Room, PS Audio PW Transport, DirectStream DAC w/Bridge II; AQ Sky XLRs, McIntosh MC 220 Tube Pre; AQ Sky XLRs, CAT 600.2 Dualmono Amp, Morrow SP7 Speaker Cables, SDA SRS 1.2tls (RD0198s, Dreadnought, Black Hole 5, Acousta-Stuf, Dynamat Extreme, JBWeld. Vr3 Mods: "The Abbot" Monastery-Level Xovers, Custom Internal Wiring, Binding Post Plates, & SDA ICs).

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    Synology 713+ NAS on Gigabit LAN serving PW MkII DAC & DirectStream DAC.
  • mpitogompitogo Posts: 398
    I would probably say Elac would be a close competitor can be found under 600, close to the sprouts 599 price point.

    Elac vs Sprout
    Pros:
    Offers sub blending room EQ.
    More inputs,+1 Optical, +1 Coax, +1 RCA

    Cons:
    Less power (40wpc 8ohms)
    No phono input
    No preamp output
    Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C47 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Denon DP-2500A | Apple Music Laptop via USB
    Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Marantz PM-10 [FL/FR] | Oppo BD-103 (CD/SACD for PM-10) | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
    Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | AppleTV | Samsung 55”
    Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080
    Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570
    Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged
    Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Living Room (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all.
    Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Klipsch RP-600M, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500, PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks
    Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,153
    Elac is supposed to be coming out with a version that also has a built in streamer, it all depends on what your needs are.

    The Sprout is great for the money especially if your into LP.
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R, Tyler Highland H2, Aries Mini, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac 11, W4S recovery, Wireworld Platinum Starlight, PS Audio Direct Stream JR.

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T

  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    edited May 2018
    The two most obvious differences between the two are:

    1) The TEAC is only 22W into 8 ohms, and the Sprout is 50W.

    2) The Sprout has a phono ["vinyl"] input and the TEAC has none.

    How they might compare in SQ is another issue.

    I had the Teac at one point thinking it was a no brainer at that price. I couldn't get past the terrible sound quality and sent it back. Owning a PS Audio Directstrem DAC, I can say I like what they do with that DAC. I'm not sure how that translates to their use of the Sabre chipset, but, I'm hopeful given what they've been doing with their other pieces. Hopefully they'll run it for $499 during the holidays, again, and I'll grab one for the kitchen/coffee shop.
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,153
    Correct. 100 per ice power Elac is 40 per class AB
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R, Tyler Highland H2, Aries Mini, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac 11, W4S recovery, Wireworld Platinum Starlight, PS Audio Direct Stream JR.

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T

  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    erniejade wrote: »
    Correct. 100 per ice power Elac is 40 per class AB

    The streamer aspect is interesting, going to keep an eye out for that.
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,368
    kharp1 wrote: »
    The two most obvious differences between the two are:

    1) The TEAC is only 22W into 8 ohms, and the Sprout is 50W.

    2) The Sprout has a phono ["vinyl"] input and the TEAC has none.

    How they might compare in SQ is another issue.

    I had the Teac at one point thinking it was a no brainer at that price. I couldn't get past the terrible sound quality and sent it back.

    That was my concern. I am curious of what the sound quality will be with the Sprout. It looks like it has potential to maybe go into an office set up I am going to do in the future.
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 5,183
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Hopefully they'll run it for $499 during the holidays, again, and I'll grab one for the kitchen/coffee shop.

    No, i’m Not kidding, and you just made my point.
    $499 is a better price for this particular piece. That is was i bought my original sprout for and it came with an AC3.
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    I was already questioning your line of thinking and rationalizing my last statement makes me wonder even more. You went from inferring it should be priced like the Teac to saying I prove your point by hoping for $100 off on a holiday sale makes no sense. I'd buy it at its price point as I feel it offers a great value. I don't need one at the moment or I would buy it at this price. When my house work gets done I'll probably have a perfect spot for it, and on sale or not, it'll be what I get. Hoping to save $100 if it's on sale in no way proves your point.

    I believe it offers a great value from what I can see and know about the company from previous experience.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 17,010
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • The Sprout nails looks and versatility. And all the reviews I've read agree it nails sound quality. I need a remote so the S100 is the complete package.

    I just want to get a line on the SVS SoundBase when it comes out in the Fall. Might be good completion.
    HT: Marantz NR-1603, Oppo 981, Def Tech SM55, SVS PB-1000
    BR: iPad Mini, Audio Engine A5+
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