Solidsteel S3-5 Audio Rack

Clipdat
Clipdat Posts: 12,934
edited May 2018 in 2 Channel Audio
At last, the thread for my new Solidsteel S3-5 Audio Rack! Huge thanks again to Douglas Connection for the great deal. Anyone looking into a Solidsteel rack, please consider supporting our forum vendor and contacting @helipilotdoug!

The S3-5 retails for $999 and features some additional niceties over the entry level 5 shelf Solidsteel S2-5 model at $500. For the additional $500 you get thicker shelves with rounded corners, columns filled with a "damping material", and plastic discs that the columns sit against which "insulate" them from touching the shelves directly. While I don't have experience with the S2-5, the additional perks of the S3-5 are quite nice. The rounded corners and thicker shelves are visually more appealing, and the plastic discs aided in assembly. The pre-filled "damping material" could be a positive or negative, depending on your point of view. Yes, $500 more for only a few more features is a tough pill to swallow. However, I think it's important to mention that these racks are made in Italy, not China. So therefore your price points are obviously going to be higher.

Moving on to the assembly process and build quality. Everything arrived intact due to the excellent packaging layout. Even though the box had some distress from the shipping process and looked like it had been dropped a few times, everything inside was in perfect shape and free of any damage.

Opening the box, the first thing we see is the assembly instructions/manual and warranty info card, boasting a 5 year warranty against manufacturing defects.

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Underneath the top layer of foam, all of the hardware is nicely laid out and protected for transit.

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Close up of the nice quality bolts used to link the columns together.

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Close look at the female threaded sections of the upper and lower end caps/footers. Look Ma, no thread burrs! These all had a good weight to them and felt solid and high quality when handled. Very nice.

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Taking a look at the end of one of the columns, we can again see the high quality threads and a glimpse at the "damping material" inside.

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The damping material appears to be a closed cell foam product, not unlike the material used in the packaging to keep the hardware safe in transit. It doesn't appear to be a damping material that adds weight or mass, but rather one to reduce/eliminate unwanted aural resonances from occurring. This is where the pre-filled material could be considered unwanted or undesired. If you're looking to fill these with sand or lead shot, I don't believe that you'd be able to due to this foam material already being inside.

The columns themselves are quite light, and each MDF shelf is very heavy. Total assembled weight of the rack is roughly 75lbs empty.

Each shelf is individually bagged to prevent damage from friction during shipping. The wood has a nice textured laminate which is more robust than other forms of veneered MDF that I've seen. This surface should be resistant to scuffs/scratches and at the same time very easy to dust off in the future.

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The assembly process is super straight forward. You basically assemble it upside down and then flip it over once you're finished. Each column gets held to the other, and to the shelf, by the double threaded metal bolts shown earlier. The plastic discs are valuable here, as they protect/insulate the columns from pressing directly into the MDF. This way you can tighten them down fairly aggressively with your hand and not worry about them marring the finish of the shelf, and at the same time making it difficult to over tighten. Any excessive pressure will be diffused through the plastic disc instead of directly into the wood. This made the assembly process really enjoyable and effortless.

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It was not really possible to see this on the included visual Ikea style assembly instructions, but I noticed each bolt shaft has two different lengths of threads. I'm not sure it matters what orientation you use during assembly, but I would advise trying to keep it all uniform. I kept all of the shorter threads "up" and the longer threads down when I assembled it.

I've tried to illustrate the thread length difference here. It's subtle, but noticeable.

Longer side:

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Shorter side:

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After completing the assembly I flipped it upright and held it, while my wife helped position the Herbie's giant decoupling glider footers so that as I lowered it down, the spikes would rest into their respective cups. This part was definitely a two person job!

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Then, I extended out each of the adjustable spikes so that they would be fully pressed into their cups. This was very easy to do by hand, and resulted in a level rack according to my bubble level.

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Final position showing completed assembly. The process to put this rack together was very straightforward, and easily done in under an hour. All of the tolerances for the hardware, threads, pre-drilled holes, column uniformity, shelf quality, etc. were great. No quality control issues at all.

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Comments

  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    Now for some initial impressions and first reactions to the assembled rack. Visually, the all black look means business and looks great. The rounded corners to the shelves just look high quality to me. It's a subtle detail, but an appreciated one. My wife commented that this rack "has higher WAF" than the last one. Married guys, take note.

    Construction wise, the rack as a whole is very rigid and robust. It feels solid and if you approach it and push lightly to moderately against it with your hand it does not give or move. You have to exert a fair bit of pushing force to get it to start to sway/move away from you slightly, and when it does, I believe it's probably partially doing so because of the high durometer rubber material in the Herbie's footers which is flexing slightly. I'm sure it's not as rigid and robust as some of the Adona and other $3k+ racks, but keep in mind the $1k price point. Overall, it has a satisfyingly "solid" feel to it.

    Even though this will never really be a concern during actual use, if you attempt to "shove" the top shelf of the rack with your hand, you can see (and feel, if you then place and hold your hand on the shelf) the energy and vibration rapidly oscillate and diffuse through the structure for several seconds. Again, the slight "flex" that the Herbie's feet have to them may be contributing to this. Also, this may just be a naturally occurring response to abrupt "horizontal impact/sway" when dealing with a structure that has been assembled/engineered/designed in this manner.

    Tonight I staged my gear on it, and I think you'll agree, it looks better when it's "fully loaded"!

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    In summary, I'm satisfied with the build quality, rigidity, look and feel, and overall experience with this equipment rack so far. I've not actually "listened" to it with my gear yet, so I can't comment on any audible improvements it may bring, but I will get to that in the near future.

    I would not hesitate to recommend the Solidsteel S3-5 to my fellow Polkies. While it's not going to have the engineering prowess and materials of the Adona and other $3k+ racks, I do think it's absolutely worth saving up to get to at least this "$1k quality level" versus considering lower priced options.

    In this case I feel it's a clear example of "you get what you pay for" in terms of the quality level of the lower priced $100-400 racks, versus this jump to a $1k rack.
  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    edited May 2018
    Very well written review...ABOUT TIME! :)
    Glad you were able to finally get a rack to work out for you. Looks good!
  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,261
    Well done. Nice job with great pictures. DK did an excellent job writing that for you! (and that was meant as a compliment)
  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,101
    Very nice review, Drew! Rack looks amazing. Glad this all worked out for you.
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    The Solid Steel Rack looks perfect for you! Congrats!
  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,261
    Clipdat wrote: »
    The S3-5 retails for $999 and features some additional niceties over the entry level 5 shelf Solidsteel S2-5 model at $500. For the additional $500 you get thicker shelves with rounded corners, columns filled with a "damping material", and plastic discs that the columns sit against which "insulate" them from touching the shelves directly.
    You've got me thinking. I wonder if someone was so inclined, if they could build a hybrid Solidsteel rack. If someone wanted a rack with the intent of mass loading it, I wonder if they could buy the S2 series which doesn't have the dampening material inside, fill it with lead/sand and then special order those isolation discs that the columns sit against and install them in the S2 series for added benefit. Assuming they would fit. It still wouldn't have the niceties of the S3 series but would be sort of like a S2.5 series.

  • dolbyd
    dolbyd Posts: 430
    Great review man. Looks great.
    I think the quality and value of that rack make it very appealing at its price point.
    Nice that it doesn’t take a week to get assembled and level.
    Do you think it would work well with a bigger power amp on the lower shelves? I’m sure it would stick out the back some but it looks to be stable enough.

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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    Nice Review Drew!

    I saw several at LSAF this year and help loaded up Marvin's Audio Rack that he bought from Doug. I may someday upgrade to it or something.

    Doug offer a pretty sweet deal on one of these at LSAF so he didn't have to take another one home or ship one out, but lucky for me my Vehicle was so full I knew it wouldn't fit.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    edited May 2018
    My understanding is that all the parts are interchangeable, making the system modular between ranges. For example you could even add in one shelf of the S5 series, for example the very top one, just for your turntable:

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    While keeping the other shelves the standard flat variety, which is what I needed to be able to fit my amps and preamps on one shelf.
    Hermitism wrote: »
    [You've got me thinking. I wonder if someone was so inclined, if they could build a hybrid Solidsteel rack. If someone wanted a rack with the intent of mass loading it, I wonder if they could buy the S2 series which doesn't have the dampening material inside, fill it with lead/sand and then special order those isolation discs that the columns sit against and install them in the S2 series for added benefit. Assuming they would fit. It still wouldn't have the niceties of the S3 series but would be sort of like a S2.5 series.

  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    edited May 2018
    Each shelf is rated to support 150lbs (which seems a bit crazy to me, but it's written right on the paperwork), so I don't think there would be any issue with large power amps.
    dolbyd wrote: »
    Do you think it would work well with a bigger power amp on the lower shelves? I’m sure it would stick out the back some but it looks to be stable enough.

  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Good review I am impressed!

    There’s a solid steel above this one, no? I thought I saw one with chrome legs
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    Yep, the next series up is the Hyperspike series: http://solidsteel.it/hyperspike-series-high-end-audio-racks/

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    Joey_V wrote: »
    Good review I am impressed!

    There’s a solid steel above this one, no? I thought I saw one with chrome legs

  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    Nice review Drew! Glad to hear you are happy with the Solidsteel S3-5 rack. At LSAF I set up the HF-3 rack and the HF-A amp stands in our room, and am very impressed with the quality. Also had a S5-4 rack and sold it to one of the exhibitors who set it up and we were both very impressed with the look and quality.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Just finished my S3-4 rack. I have to agree with all of Drew's comments above. First impression when picking up the box is, man this thing is heavy!

    As mentioned above, build quality is top-notch. Very easy assembly.

    Couple of modifications I made during assembly:

    I added loctite to the threaded fasteners. Probably overkill, just wanted to make sure over time they didn't get loose.

    I added washers in between the bottom cones and the shelf. I was concerned that a cast metal finish on the cones may tear up the laminate a bit when tightening. Again, maybe overkill, but I had some thin fender washers that fit perfectly.
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    Bottom cones installed with washer:
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    My new Solidsteel Rack! Thank you Doug for a top quality product! :smile:
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    edited October 2018
    And how'd you like leveling the spikes and getting those all perfect? Doesn't it feel a lot more solid once you get those nuts on the spikes locked down? I thought so at least.
  • verb wrote: »
    Just finished my S3-4 rack. I have to agree with all of Drew's comments above. First impression when picking up the box is, man this thing is heavy!

    As mentioned above, build quality is top-notch. Very easy assembly.
    My new Solidsteel Rack! Thank you Doug for a top quality product! :smile:

    Glad you like it Dave. Solidsteel does build excellent racks! :)
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Clipdat wrote: »
    And how'd you like leveling the spikes and getting those all perfect? Doesn't it feel a lot more solid once you get those nuts on the spikes locked down? I thought so at least.

    Actually haven’t done that part yet. Until I do some furniture re-arranging in the basement. Gotta get the SRS’s in the best spot.

    But yes they look robust. The lock nut looks like it’ll do the trick.
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